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Wow, they look nice. Good job raising them I would say.

cdmay Wrote:Wow, they look nice. Good job raising them I would say.

Hello and welcome cdmay,

Thank you for the compliments.. I had the best teacher and mentor!

What would you say causes some of the Brazilians to have the "marbled" carapace.. and others don't?

Terry

What would you say causes some of the Brazilians to have the "marbled" carapace.. and others don't?

The marbling is genetic I think. One female I have produces some very marbled hatchlings (they begin to show this trait at a few months of age) while another female of mine doesn't produce them. This is when the two females are bred with the same male, BTW.
Also, I have found that adults with large amounts of the marbled trait likewise produce some really marbled hatchlings. But, it is quite variable within a group of hatchlings.

ps....yes, it is great to be a 'newbie'

May I introduce my friend and mentor Carl? There is not one in my humble years of raising and now breeding G. carbonaria.. AKA Redfoot tortoises.. that has helped as even a distant second than Carl May! He has been there in the past to answer every one of my Q?'s.. and there were a zillion! Hopefully he is willing to share.

Thanks Carl.

And yes Terryo I am humble.. unfortunately few recognize it - which is my fault - Robyn does.

Terry

Thanks Terry, I thought it was quite obviouse. Nice introduction Terry. Welcome Carl I know you will be such an asset to this site and already are to many and to the torts in your care.

Welcome to the forum Carl. It is so good to have you here.

Terry has told me alot about you so I look forward to reading your posts.

ARKelly

P.S. I am Terry's underling.

Welcome to the forum Carl. It is so good to have you here.

Terry has told me alot about you so I look forward to reading your posts.

ARKelly

P.S. I am Terry's underling.
Thanks ARKelly. That is nice to hear.
You are Terry 'underling'? Gawd! That must be embarrassing!

cdmay Wrote:Thanks ARKelly. That is nice to hear.
You are Terry 'underling'? Gawd! That must be embarrassing!

ROFLMAO! If I could perfect my smilies, this post would be full of them.

ARKelly

cdmay Wrote:Welcome to the forum Carl. It is so good to have you here.

Terry has told me alot about you so I look forward to reading your posts.

ARKelly

P.S. I am Terry's underling.
Thanks ARKelly. That is nice to hear.
You are Terry 'underling'? Gawd! That must be embarrassing!

Probly is.. but then Carl.. how do YOU feel about me being your underling.. didn't I do good?
You did say.. Wow, they look nice. Good job raising them I would say.

So now I'm passing that along to Kelly.. of course she was easier to teach than I was I'm sure..

YIKES!!! what a thought.

.. to Carl!

So- do all 'cherryheads' (is there a better term we can try to promote? Brazilian? Brazilian Red? Bahian? Morrocoy?)...

1. Have the 'Rudolph Sign' of the big red (or sorta red) honker?

2. Have the darker plastron of Red-foots from south of the Amazon?

3. Are there other consistent signs we can use for the 'non-cherry' Cherryheads?

The dwarf bit still confuses me. Rob Roy at Glade Herps told me about the smaller adult males as well, and I often hear about them getting big as they grow... so were they somehow stunted? Do the wild ones stay smaller, perhaps for dietary reasons?

Madkins007 Wrote:So- do all 'cherryheads' (is there a better term we can try to promote? Brazilian? Brazilian Red? Bahian? Morrocoy?)...

1. Have the 'Rudolph Sign' of the big red (or sorta red) honker?

2. Have the darker plastron of Red-foots from south of the Amazon?

3. Are there other consistent signs we can use for the 'non-cherry' Cherryheads?

The dwarf bit still confuses me. Rob Roy at Glade Herps told me about the smaller adult males as well, and I often hear about them getting big as they grow... so were they somehow stunted? Do the wild ones stay smaller, perhaps for dietary reasons?

Mark read this entire thread from the start.. and those Q?'s will be answered.

Redfoot NERD Wrote:So now I'm passing that along to Kelly.. of course she was easier to teach than I was I'm sure..

I can second that one!

Hi,

Because i'm dutch its possible i read and understand things wrong, but where do you think the parends are from by the red coulord hatchling on the left?




And is this what you guys call marbled?