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JustAnja Wrote:
Itort Wrote:I can't speak for the feeding of mealworms to bearded dragons or geckos ( a fairly broad group) but as a breeder of blue-tongue skinks, I consider them almost useless as do other breeders. For the curious, http://bluetongueskinks.net and look at the caresheet. I've taken this info and applied to another omnivirous reptile,my rfs.


The point is Im not using it as a staple in their diet, but when fed it does provide some protein.

It seems Anja that when I reply to anything you post it becomes a complex issue which is far from my intent. Mealworms are real high in fat and phos. - low in calcium and are quite expensive even as a treat. They do provide some protein and it's good to see not relied on as a staple. I'm not sure what you provide for your redfoots as their animal protein staple.. you know what I encourage.

FWIW - let's all be aware of our reference sources.. their real intent.. and then let's ask ourselves if it's what we should be feeding our beloved pets.

Terry
Terry you know exactly when *our* issues started and you have made it quite clear with your replies to me as well as other things. Thats OK. Im not going to hash it out here on the forum. I provide my RFs with a variety of protein foods (as well as a large variety of other foods), I dont rely on cat food. Thats my choice, as they are my torts. Yes I do know exactly what you encourage, but I dont personally agree, again my choice. I appreciate your reply, but to state they have *no nutritional value* at all is a little broad I think. As a treat I threw in some mealworms and they loved them so I snapped a few pictures. Bad me.
JustAnja Wrote:Terry you know exactly when *our* issues started and you have made it quite clear with your replies to me as well as other things. Thats OK. Im not going to hash it out here on the forum. I provide my RFs with a variety of protein foods (as well as a large variety of other foods), I dont rely on cat food. Thats my choice, as they are my torts. Yes I do know exactly what you encourage, but I dont personally agree, again my choice. I appreciate your reply, but to state they have *no nutritional value* at all is a little broad I think. As a treat I threw in some mealworms and they loved them so I snapped a few pictures. Bad me.

Maybe you should email/call me direct.. because I've honestly been clueless as to what our issues are for some time now Anja. I have no issues with anyone. Where would be the wisdom in that?

*no nutritional value* is saying Romaine lettuce has none "compared to" Hibiscus leaves/flowers.. which is at the top of the list for nutritional value - simple as that.

Redfoot tortoises.. being omni's [ almost carni's ].. will eat most anything. And over-feeding ( the wrong thing.. whatever that is ) IS an issue with herp's in captivity. I do hope everyone is learning that.

Terry
Sorry Terry I really have no desire to call nor email you after hearing a few things. Lets just agree to disagree, how about that?
Can't we all just get along? :-)

ARKelly
Thank you, Kelly.
Amen to that!
Josh if you could just delete this entire thread I would greatly appreciate it.



Thanks
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