thanks guys for all the help its much needed hes just sleeping now has done since this afternoon bless

                    here are a few pics of my set up
please tell me if im going wrong and if there is anything i need to add
hes just very sleepy and is still not eating or drinking

Hi, VPG1978, Well he has quite a bit of light in his habitat. What are the bulbs you are using?
The florescent light is it a uvb light? The small flood bulb is that just a basking lamp and what watt is it? Height from substrate? Then you have the compact florescent? That is a lot of light. There is no place for him to get out of the light. What temps are in the habitat? And what substrate do you have him on?

I would place the long florescent if it is uvb and the basking lamp on the same side at least 12 inches from the substrate. Check the temps in this area, basking temp should be about 90 F (32 C). I like shredded aspen for substrate or dirt and sand mix with a little bed a beast mixed in. (my preference)

For starters I would read up on bulbs, here are some sites.
http://carolinapetsupply.com/uvb_output_of_bulbs.htm

Problems with some compact florescent bulbs
http://www.uvguide.co.uk/phototherapypho...ummary.htm

Here are a couple of care link
http://tortoiseforum.org/hermanns-tortoi...-1000.html
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/hermann...secare.htm

I'm sure some Hermanni owners will respond but this will bet you started.

thanks alot all i need is a little point in the right direction as the pet shop owner never told me a thing i had to research a lot on line

vpg,
check out this thread: http://tortoiseforum.org/new-and-have-so...-1355.html
it was started also by a new hermann keeper and should give you further insight on what to change.

to sum up what's been said:

1) change the substrate. aspen, soil or bead-a-beast are all better & safer
2) monitor temps inside the enclosure. you need a gradient.
3) you only need 1 uvb source & 1 heat source. no lights in the hide.
4) also, a bigger habitat will be an issue pretty soon...
5) bath the tort on shallow tepid water 2/3 times a week.
6) check the safe food list on the link above and the one I previously posted. also, check out the hermann caresheet on the hermann lounge and the enclosure section for improvment ideas.

it's a good thing you researched online. pet shops have a history of giving the worst tortoise husbandry advice...
keep us posted.
cheers,
T

just thought id let everyone no that the tortoise loves butternut squash like someone on here told me to buy hes now a lil piggy and eats everything thanks guys

fantastic news, vpg1978! congratulations.
told you they just can't resist that shiny squash...