The first 2 pictures Terry are yearling Pyxis planicauda
The third picture is a group of Pyxis arachnoides, Spider tortoises.
I'd have to see plastrons to tell what subspecies
The last 2 pictures are WC adult Pyxis planicauda

They are great pictures

Danny

Thanks Danny,

You not only take great pics.. you own what you pic!

Terry

Thanks everyone. I'll make the adjustments. He is a fascinating little guy and different from what I've dealt with before. I'm thinking now he's a subadult and not a hatchling as represented. Pictures comeing.

Males are adult at 4 inches and so are females. Males can get up to 5 inches and females up to 6 inches.
How big is your Spider?

Danny

These guys are wonderfull.

What is does the red dot mean? Why I ask is mine has one same position.

Breeders use the dots to tell one hatchling from another. Also even if you can tell one hatchling from another you may not remember who are the parents of each hatchling and that helps with that too.

Danny

The 'red dot' location is also used in the "Studbook" ID also..

Terry

Danny, I measured it last night and it's 2.5" long. I also have question about the pastrom hinge. It won't completely close, so that would be brygooi right.

If your tortoise has a hinge, even one that doesn't close, it's Pyxis arachnoides arachnoides. P. a. brygooi has no hinge at all.
P. a. oblonga is the only subspecies where the hinge completely closes.
Pyxis arachnoides oblonga



Pyxis arachnoides brygooi on the left and Pyxis arachnoides arachnoides on the right


Danny

Does carapace color have any relationship to sudspecie?