I grew up in Grand Rapids. What part of Michigan are you in?

west Bloomfield, lower thumb.

2 hours from GR. i think.

why? giving free sulcatas to Michiganders?

No, my torts play in the mud. I keep Redfoots and Black Mountain torts.

Thats cool. so can someone please answer the questions? k thanks

I don't like the hay you buy at Petsmart because it is old, dry and very hard. I buy mine from carolinapetsupply.com/ It's called "salad-style hay" and it is cut and dried while still green. It keeps its soft texture and smells fresh. Its already cut up into small pieces so you just sprinkle it onto your wet greens and it sticks. That way they have to eat it. Oxbow.com also sells it, but it doesn't seem to be as fresh or good quality. You can also take a plastic bag and a pair of scissors and go for a walk around the neighborhood. When you see a tasty week or clump of grass just snip, snip. Just be sure they haven't been sprayed with pesticides or herbicides.

Yvonne

Do you know anyone who keeps horses or other livestock ? If so see if you could could get a flake of grass hay from them.

i think I'll order from the first link, is the TNT supplement good?

Thanks!

All of the people on the African Tortoise Yahoo group site swear by it. Its ground up nutrients for tortoises, and you don't need to use any vitamins or calcium supplements if you use the TNT.

Yvonne

alright cool i'll order it.

But be sure it is GRASS hay, and NOT alfalfa.

Yvonne