A New Update on red foot types

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Thank you Kelly for this thread. The other day I started a thread asking if anybody else had redfoots that look so different in the face.
I wondered if there appearance was relevant to the exact location of there origin. You have put my mind at rest. Think I must have one from every part that reds live. lol I'm relatively new to redfoots and learning everyday thanks to this forum and other research. I'm guessing there is still a lot to learn for everyone about these fine creatures. I watch, interact and observe mine every day. Now you are probably going to think i'm mad for my next statement.
Have you ever noticed that males have a longer neck and the females bite is harder than the males.
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I see a difference in the scale patterns of the locality differences for sure. Color, shapes and density patterns. Males do have much longer necks than females. They're a lot like an Aldabra. Where the male mounts the female and keeps eye contact with female during the mating process.
 

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Definitely northerns. Exactly from I can't say. That would be a guess in the dark. Known where the parents were imported from is really the only way of knowing that detail locale.
Thanks so much!!! I appreciate you getting back to me! I've always that it was a bit weird how my tortoises look similar but bought at different stores at different times. Maybe the breeder in the Michigan area?
 

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Thanks so much!!! I appreciate you getting back to me! I've always that it was a bit weird how my tortoises look similar but bought at different stores at different times. Maybe the breeder in the Michigan area?
Most the northerns will represent very similar looks, and all waste band in the middle of the shell. When they bigger they will hourglass a lot. Males more than females too.
 

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I think I have all females, except my 4 yr old too young to tell right?
Right I'm going to have a stab at sexing, You wouldn,t believe the amount of torts I've been to see and they have not been the sex that they were advertised as. I've found out that the only sure way to tell is the tail size, There is carapace shape,concave plastron, anal scute shape, anal scute thickness,tail size and the way they hold there tail. The only sure way is the tail size. I've seen every other thing that contradicts its sex. I read an article on this subject a while ago and it said that captive bread female torts can take on male characteristics, nobody knows why. Don't know if its true or not.
Anyway, i'm going for male,male,female,and most likely female.
 

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Lol...then I was waaay off haha!!! I honesty thought female, female, male ? , possible male :)

I know my larger tort has a big tail though but they have flat plastrons too?
 

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Lol...then I was waaay off haha!!! I honesty thought female, female, male ? , possible male :)

I know my larger tort has a big tail though but they have flat plastrons too?

Its only a stab, don't take it as gospel. Some expert should help you out soon. Some males are not very concave on the plastron and some females can have a minor concave plastron. Also yours may not be old enough and still end up with a concave plastron later in life. Cherryheads (Brazilians) males mostly have a flat plastron and no waistline shape unlike northern male redfoots. However the big tail is to harbour the alien looking penis it needs for reproduction. So this is a certain way of sexing on a mature male.
 

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Its only a stab, don't take it as gospel. Some expert should help you out soon. Some males are not very concave on the plastron and some females can have a minor concave plastron. Also yours may not be old enough and still end up with a concave plastron later in life. Cherryheads (Brazilians) males mostly have a flat plastron and no waistline shape unlike northern male redfoots. However the big tail is to harbour the alien looking penis it needs for reproduction. So this is a certain way of sexing on a mature male.
Well since I've had my torts I have yet to see any male parts ever. My largest tort this past summer mounted my tortoises but I never saw anything...it was a crazy summer with that tortoise, a handful!!
 

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I bet that's an immature male experimenting. Males are generally more active aswell, Females are more subdued more often than not. My male cherryhead is always mounting every other tort I have male or female, but doesn,t show his bits. On other occasions I've found him on his own lifting his body up as high as possible getting his penis out.
 

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I bet that's an immature male experimenting. Males are generally more active aswell, Females are more subdued more often than not. My male cherryhead is always mounting every other tort I have male or female, but doesn,t show his bits. On other occasions I've found him on his own lifting his body up as high as possible getting his penis out.
Thanks for sharing your experience with me, I thought I would have seen my tort flashing by now
 

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can anyone tell me what region mine maybe from and if it is definitely a male? I'm new to red foots so still getting to grips and researching a lot. I read that it can be hard to sex red foots while they are still young. He is around 18 months.
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can anyone tell me what region mine maybe from and if it is definitely a male? I'm new to red foots so still getting to grips and researching a lot. I read that it can be hard to sex red foots while they are still young. He is around 18 months.
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Too young to sex. 4-5 more years and that can be more accurately done for you. Appears to be a northern from pictures provided.
 

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Hey guys! I would love to know where Trinity is from, and a few people thing she is a girl...hence the name Trinity! LOL . Also her head is yellow! I haven't seen too many redfoots with a yellow head, even thoo I know its not uncommon!
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I had some requests on an old thread I did on some different types of redfoots I have had over a decade or longer. So here is some new photos of some.

Venezuelan F3 12 year olds (Male on right Female on left)

Male on right female on left


Guyana WC male F2 Female( Male on left unknown age LTC 11 years, Female CBF2 12 years old)



Bolivian Male F2 (male is 7 years old)



Bolivian Female F2(Female is 12 Years old)



Suriname WC (Female is smaller one male is larger LTC 15 years)



Brazilian F2 (Male CBF2 10 years old female 8 Years old)




Should be enough for now.
What locality do you think these Redfoots are from?
 
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