Dog & Tortoise

biyeshengplay · Feb 7, 2016

maggie3fan said:
You old timers can go read something else, newbies, pay attention. This is a true story without emotion and just the facts....My sis will correct my mistakes I'm sure.
This Calif lady had a 30 or so year old Gopherus agassizii, named Mildred. When Mildred was about 10 they got a dog. Don't remember what kind, but it was quote; well trained, loves Mildred would never hurt her. Heck, they slept together. end quote.
So for the next 20 years, (twenty), years they lived together well. Then one day the keeper came home from work, and Mildred's left front leg was missing. Gone, no blood, no clues. The dog had licked the wound so much he stopped the bleeding. Keeper takes Mildred to the Vet, pays for treatment and when the tort is better, my sister ended up with her, but then I got her. The best desert tortoise ever. Why after 20 years did that dog decided to eat on Mildred's leg? Did it taste like chicken????
My point is, you are thinking wrong, your dog is a predator, tortoises are prey, to every dog, every where. Now remember he didn't touch Mildred for 20 years. Think about this, do ya wanna take that chance?
Just recently one of our members had her 6 months or so Sulcata baby walking around the floor, ALSO A SERIOUS NO NO .So she forgets he's on the floor and closes the kitchen door and he had been sticking his head thru the hing side of the door, and she squished and flattened his head. Dead right now. I wouldn't wish that one on someone I hated even. What a thing to do.So when we say things like, dogs and torts even supervised is a major don't ever do, and tortoises do not belong on the floor. Please understand we are not trying to insult you or show you a lack of respect. But some of us have killed tortoises doing just exactly what Tom and I told you not to do. Please, use our experience, we are trying to keep your tortoise alive....and welcome

Yes, you are right, dog is a predator. Thank you for your story. I won't take chances any more.

I agree with your experience. I also heard about tortoises injured, impacted, get sick or are killed because of dogs, I did not take it seriously maybe because this dose not happen on my tortoise. But it confuse me as well, I see many pictures or videos about dogs & babies from America family, why people like you (American, English and so on) are assured about dogs watching, playing even eating with little babies, it seems like dogs are completely trustful, 100% certain. In China, some families treat a dog as a family member , but if they have a have, few will let dogs get close.

I am from Beijing China, today is Chinese new year of Monkey, and happy new year~

Jodie · Feb 7, 2016

Is the leopard alive?[/QUOTE]
Yes, and has only minimal shell damage remaing several years later, thank heavens. It was horrible and I still feel really bad to think of him trapped in his shell while being chewed on. I would love for every tortoise owner to learn from my mistake so no other tortoise, or owner has to experience that. I am glad to know you heard. I know it is hard to hear people. When I was building my Russians enclosure I was sure my plan was good. People here told me it wasn't. I finally stopped arguing and changed my plans when Tom pointed out I was being bull headed, and years of Russians experience was trying to safe me from an escaped tortoise.
Anyway, I Love your your tortoise, he is a beautiful color.
Here is my Mort, chewed on baby. He was my 1st tortoise.

Nia is my most recent female. She is light. I am hoping for beautiful babies.

Kori5 · Feb 7, 2016

biyeshengplay said:
I red all the replies carefully from you and other friends. Thank you for your words, I really appreciate it! But there is something else I didn't post here. The leopard is kept on his enclousure most of the time. To protect it away from rats, stray cats and dogs, it is not allowed to let the tort outside or on the floor unattended. Actually torts are not mixed with any other animal, Shiba and the leopard just act as models in the pics.

Thank you for the stories you told, it really warms me.

Happy New Year

. I'm glad you responed so well. I had made the same mistake, let me tortoise with my kind labrador sometimes. Thank God, nothing happened. But you really can't trust them, it takes a second for a dog to kill a tortoise. I keep my tortoise away from my dog, they get no contact! Because your tortoise doesn't know what friendship is and he is just stressed with the furry beast

. Also, don't let it roam in your house. It should have an indoor enclousure where it spends 24 h and an outdoor enclousure.

dmmj · Feb 7, 2016

Gong xi fa cai

Pearly · Feb 7, 2016

Hey there and happy New Year!!! love your pictures!!!! You've got some gorgeous animals, both: dog and tort. Welcome to the Forum. I keep redfoot torts and live in Texas.

Maggie Cummings · Feb 7, 2016

Is your puppy a Siberian Husky? Excellent photography BTW.....

biyeshengplay · Feb 23, 2016

maggie3fan said:
Is your puppy a Siberian Husky? Excellent photography BTW.....

Thank you, this puppy is a Shiba Inu, live in both Japan and China.

biyeshengplay · Feb 23, 2016

Pearly said:
Hey there and happy New Year!!! love your pictures!!!! You've got some gorgeous animals, both: dog and tort. Welcome to the Forum. I keep redfoot torts and live in Texas.

Thank you~ I see many gorgeous redfoot in this Forum, I really like it!

biyeshengplay · Feb 23, 2016

dmmj said:
Gong xi fa cai

Xie xie, you too!

biyeshengplay · Feb 23, 2016

Kori5 said:
Happy New Year . I'm glad you responed so well. I had made the same mistake, let me tortoise with my kind labrador sometimes. Thank God, nothing happened. But you really can't trust them, it takes a second for a dog to kill a tortoise. I keep my tortoise away from my dog, they get no contact! Because your tortoise doesn't know what friendship is and he is just stressed with the furry beast . Also, don't let it roam in your house. It should have an indoor enclousure where it spends 24 h and an outdoor enclousure.

I am busy visiting other family members and friends these days. So it's a little late to reply. I only have an indoor enclousure, I'll try my best to make an outdoor one.

biyeshengplay · Feb 23, 2016

Jodie said:
Is the leopard alive?

Yes, and has only minimal shell damage remaing several years later, thank heavens. It was horrible and I still feel really bad to think of him trapped in his shell while being chewed on. I would love for every tortoise owner to learn from my mistake so no other tortoise, or owner has to experience that. I am glad to know you heard. I know it is hard to hear people. When I was building my Russians enclosure I was sure my plan was good. People here told me it wasn't. I finally stopped arguing and changed my plans when Tom pointed out I was being bull headed, and years of Russians experience was trying to safe me from an escaped tortoise.
Anyway, I Love your your tortoise, he is a beautiful color.
Here is my Mort, chewed on baby. He was my 1st tortoise.
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Nia is my most recent female. She is light. I am hoping for beautiful babies.
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I do learn from your experience, and good luck for your Mort!

drgnfly2265 · Feb 24, 2016

They are adorable!!!
My dog and tortoise get along (always supervised) as well.

Oxalis · Feb 25, 2016

maggie3fan said:
You old timers can go read something else, newbies, pay attention. This is a true story without emotion and just the facts....My sis will correct my mistakes I'm sure.
This Calif lady had a 30 or so year old Gopherus agassizii, named Mildred. When Mildred was about 10 they got a dog. Don't remember what kind, but it was quote; well trained, loves Mildred would never hurt her. Heck, they slept together. end quote.
So for the next 20 years, (twenty), years they lived together well. Then one day the keeper came home from work, and Mildred's left front leg was missing. Gone, no blood, no clues. The dog had licked the wound so much he stopped the bleeding. Keeper takes Mildred to the Vet, pays for treatment and when the tort is better, my sister ended up with her, but then I got her. The best desert tortoise ever. Why after 20 years did that dog decided to eat on Mildred's leg? Did it taste like chicken????
My point is, you are thinking wrong, your dog is a predator, tortoises are prey, to every dog, every where. Now remember he didn't touch Mildred for 20 years. Think about this, do ya wanna take that chance?
Just recently one of our members had her 6 months or so Sulcata baby walking around the floor, ALSO A SERIOUS NO NO .So she forgets he's on the floor and closes the kitchen door and he had been sticking his head thru the hing side of the door, and she squished and flattened his head. Dead right now. I wouldn't wish that one on someone I hated even. What a thing to do.So when we say things like, dogs and torts even supervised is a major don't ever do, and tortoises do not belong on the floor. Please understand we are not trying to insult you or show you a lack of respect. But some of us have killed tortoises doing just exactly what Tom and I told you not to do. Please, use our experience, we are trying to keep your tortoise alive....and welcome

Oh wow, very scary, heart-breaking stuff. :'( As my fiance would attest, I'd go to some crazy lengths to keep my little tort safe from just about everything. He even thinks I check on our tort too much when he's just in his enclosure.

Other than 2 fish, we only have our Russian as a pet right now and are too busy at the moment to consider caring for any other pets. I do pass along this advice to non-tort keepers out there who ask.

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