need help , tortoise stopped eating and move on hind legs

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I noticed red patterns staring apeal on shell . What’s this ? Is it some kind of bruise? Internal bleeding?

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at this point , myself , my vet would have free range to solve this ……. I am somewhat quick to use a vet , but my vets always start out as conservative as the situation allows , even the dog vets , imo it's what a good vet does ….. a month , month and a half without improvement , if I had the time , money and effort you have obviously invested in this animal i'd be past being conservative …….. a good exotic/herp vet , good luck with him , he is beautiful
 

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I was thinking maybe it's a neurological issue, but the redness???? Let us know what the vet finds. So sorry and very hopeful for you.
 

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update 9/21/2018

Vet said the bruise didn’t look like septicemia, because in that case it would be all over the plastron . But he prescribed antibiotics anyway .
Right now the treatment is oral stool softener everyday , antibiotic shots every 3 days .
We started treatment this Monday 9/17/2018 .
So far nothing coming out yet , but the appetite is diminishing .
Does antibiotics have effects on appetite?
 

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I am told antibiotics can , never could be certain myself , as the animals I've given them too were always pretty sick … I've used them on dogs with infections that weren't ill , gave them loose stools , but never seen it affect their appetite …. pretty sick animals tend not to eat , or their appetites were in the process of dwindling beforehand ……. I don't recall any animals treated appetites not coming back before the antibiotic treatment was done , it's actually how I could tell it worked ……….. what antibiotic did they give ? how are you administering the stool softener ? I really hope you get this figured out , did the vet offer any guesses as to what he thinks is causing this ? good luck , I feel for you ……….
 

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I believe that for me personally antibiotics have affected my appetite, so it is reasonable to assume it would do so in an animal too. Antibiotics attack bacteria all over the body, including gut flora, so may cause stomach upset.
 

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I believe that for me personally antibiotics have affected my appetite, so it is reasonable to assume it would do so in an animal too. Antibiotics attack bacteria all over the body, including gut flora, so may cause stomach upset.

He started eating again last night . 2 Mazuri and some leaf .
So should I feed him some healthy poop from the other radiata ?
 

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How about some Benebac? Or is that to be given after the antibiotic course is finished?
 

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Update 10/11/18
Stopped eating for a week . I noticed little bit blood seeping out of the cracks between the scutes .
Vet did another X-ray , found out huge amount of liquid building up in the abdominal cavity. She took some samples, the liquid is clear champagne color .

You can clear see the liquid pushing up all organs up against the carapace . This is the reason of the “bruise” marks under scutes and conticipation .

Blood work test will come tomorrow to determine if it’s infection (hopefully) or kidney/liver/heart problems or even cancer .

Vet says if it’s liver/ heart problems or cancer, then probably the only cure is organ transplant or lifelong life support . But this is a tortoise , not human . No one has ever done that .
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Ok so we're hoping for an infection, right? I'll be keeping you guys in my thoughts. Best of luck!
 

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Blood test results back .
It’s not infection . So pretty high chance of liver or kidney problem.
I think from now on I’ll just try to drain out the liquid and hopefully he’ll feel less pain and start eating again .
 

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Blood test results back .
It’s not infection . So pretty high chance of liver or kidney problem.
I think from now on I’ll just try to drain out the liquid and hopefully he’ll feel less pain and start eating again .
I'm sorry.
 

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Blood test results back .
It’s not infection . So pretty high chance of liver or kidney problem.
I think from now on I’ll just try to drain out the liquid and hopefully he’ll feel less pain and start eating again .

How do u drain the liquid? Prayers for u both!
 

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