not eating much, sleeping a lot

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These past 2 weeks, my sulcata is eating very few and sleep a lot too.
The temps are 85-90* in hiding spot, 100-110* in basking and coldest was 85*
 
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Basking temperature should be 95-100F. Temperatures can be too high as well as too low.

You are reporting only one day of inactivity, so I wouldn't be immediately concerned. Make sure you are soaking your baby every day for at least 20 minutes.
 

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I believe the 110 is a bit on the high side.
Basking temperature should be 95-100F. Temperatures can be too high as well as too low.

You are reporting only one day of inactivity, so I wouldn't be immediately concerned. Make sure you are soaking your baby every day for at least 20 minutes.
Well i tried pretty much every temp. 85 all enclosure, 90-100* (90 being the lowest), up it to 105* and he just sleep in his hidding cave. I tried move him and he would just move back to the cave.
I soak him every morning under sunlight.
The inactivity has been over a week now.
I tried taking him to the vet, the vet did x-ray and said everything is normal.
Is it possible he is hibernating? Everytime i put him under sunlight, after 10minute he would start waking up and finding place with shadows and just go back to sleep.
 

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Well i tried pretty much every temp. 85 all enclosure, 90-100* (90 being the lowest), up it to 105* and he just sleep in his hidding cave. I tried move him and he would just move back to the cave.
I soak him every morning under sunlight.
The inactivity has been over a week now.
I tried taking him to the vet, the vet did x-ray and said everything is normal.
Is it possible he is hibernating? Everytime i put him under sunlight, after 10minute he would start waking up and finding place with shadows and just go back to sleep.
Sulcata tortoises don't hibernate. Have you changed his enclosure or food in any way?
 

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How long have you had your tort?

Have we seen photos of the enclosure and lighting?

Are you using a digital temperature gun type thermometer to measure those temperatures, like this?
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How cold is it getting at night? Don’t guess, use a digital min/max thermometer.

It is important to soak your tort for at least 30 minutes in warm water every day when it is not being normally active.

Do it first thing in the morning and feed straight afterwards.
 

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How long have you had your tort?

Have we seen photos of the enclosure and lighting?

Are you using a digital temperature gun type thermometer to measure those temperatures, like this?
View attachment 257714

How cold is it getting at night? Don’t guess, use a digital min/max thermometer.

It is important to soak your tort for at least 30 minutes in warm water every day when it is not being normally active.

Do it first thing in the morning and feed straight afterwards.
I used thermometer gun, in my place at night it's still warm. Since i use a bulb, at night the lowest is 85-86* in his hiding spot, under the bulb usually 105*
I soak it with warm water at least 30minute everyday under morning sunlight
Usually he ate a lot after the bath, but these past week he hasnt been eating at all, only touches a pellet or two in 2 day even
Sulcata tortoises don't hibernate. Have you changed his enclosure or food in any way?
no nothing changes, i gave him tortoise mazuri pellet, hibiscus leaves, vegetables like bak choi because it's pretty much was he eat most of the time.
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It's been 3 weeks with the lethargy, he just slept all day in the enclosure and only moved around if i put him under the sun.
Usually after 15minute he would get up and look for cooler place under shadow.
In the enclosure if i moved him, he would go back to the hiding spot.

I've tried lower the temp into 80* lowest, up the temp into 90* lowest and nothing changes (usually 85*c lowest and 95-100* under basking).
I've try use CHE instead of bulb so the enclosure had lower light.
He only ate like once every 2-3 days and even so few.
I soak him everyday in the morning with water and baby carrot food for 30 minute under sunlight.
He still defecates when i soak him in the water.

Any one got any idea on what's wrong with him?
I've tried getting him to the vet and they couldnt exactly pin point the problem.
 

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Pictures of enclosure can let us help you more. Download the tortoise forum App so that you can upload pictures from your cellphone. A stable living environment is the key of a healthy hatching tortoise.
 

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How old is your Sulcata and how much does he weights?
Pictures of enclosure can let us help you more. Download the tortoise forum App so that you can upload pictures from your cellphone. A stable living environment is the key of a healthy hatching tortoise.
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around 3-4 month old, weight at 63 gram
 

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Because it’s a open top enclosure. The tortoise will detect the environment change. Eating less is not a problem. A fish tank enclosure is a bad idea but open top tortoise table is the worst idea.
 

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Because it’s a open top enclosure. The tortoise will detect the environment change. Eating less is not a problem. A fish tank enclosure is a bad idea but open top tortoise table is the worst idea.
Allright i'll try close it down,
lately he's not eating at all though, can last 2 days without touching any of the food.
I've been using that enclosure for 3month, the last month is when he started eating very few like 1 pellet in 2 day and sleep all day
 

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Here is my advise for you. If you live at Indonesia, means it’s a hot and high humidity area. The temperature right there is pretty for the sulcata. And the enclosure you have right there seems good enough. Maybe you just need to release and let the baby get some rest and don’t soak it on some uanessacry carrot water.
 

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Here is my advise for you. If you live at Indonesia, means it’s a hot and high humidity area. The temperature right there is pretty for the sulcata. And the enclosure you have right there seems good enough. Maybe you just need to release and let the baby get some rest and don’t soak it on some uanessacry carrot water.
Alright, i've only been soaking him with carrot water in the last week and not daily.
I'll stop using carrot water and use warm water only then.
 

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If he is not eating, carrot water is fine and will not hurt him. At least he will absorb some nutrition from it. I would not stop! The
 
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