Pied Northern Redfoots?

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Disclaimer- I do not keep redfoots and know very little about their possible morphologies. However, I noticed the following ad on Kingsnake and I confused as to the pied they are talking about.

"Pied Northern Red Foot Tortoises CB 2015. They have pied Rear legs and some unusual coloration."

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I have heard of JD line hypos, Joe Terry line hypos, but never 'pied rear legs' as a morph. What am I missing here, as the asking price is $3,500?
 

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It sounds like a muttonhead-tax to me ... unscrupulous breeders trying to take a bigger payday with shiny names that beguile suckers.

Cue free market violins ....

J
 
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I've heard the term "pied" with snakes, but never tortoises. I'd say it's a dishonest endeavor to get more money. I've only seen hypos and marbled as color morphs for redfoots.
 

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Pied is just foot in french so I read "They have foot Rear legs and some unusual coloration." So they are worth a bunch because they have feets lol
 

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I seen this ad too and was wondering.
 

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"Pied" is used in the bird breeding world (as in Pied Cockatiel) to describe a color morph - usually lighter shaded feathers. I think that's what this seller is doing - using the term pied to describe a rear leg that has nearly white scales where it would normally have red scales. If this was a normal world it would be discounted for failing to meet the normal traits of the breed. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Here is another photo from their ad showing all 4 legs.
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"Pied" is used in the bird breeding world (as in Pied Cockatiel) to describe a color morph - usually lighter shaded feathers. I think that's what this seller is doing - using the term pied to describe a rear leg that has nearly white scales where it would normally have red scales. If this was a normal world it would be discounted for failing to meet the normal traits of the breed. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Here is another photo from their ad showing all 4 legs.
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Oh...thank you that explains, I wonder who will pay that much for this color difference.
 

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What would be facinating, and possibly justify the price, would be if they could prove heritability versus just a one-time fluke of development. A pale leg isn't so interesting, but a tortoise where the right half of their shell had a pattern and the left half looked hypo or albino would be very neat. Piebald ball pythons, for example, are very visually striking.
 

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"Pied" is used in the bird breeding world (as in Pied Cockatiel) to describe a color morph - usually lighter shaded feathers. I think that's what this seller is doing - using the term pied to describe a rear leg that has nearly white scales where it would normally have red scales. If this was a normal world it would be discounted for failing to meet the normal traits of the breed. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Here is another photo from their ad showing all 4 legs./QUOTE]

Great explanation, thanks. I'll be honest, I barely noticed the lack of coloration on the scales. For $3,500 I would rather get some of the incredible hypo's TortsRUs produced.
 

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I've got a juvenile Redfoot that has blue eyes. I'm wondering, or hoping, that maybe it will carry over to some future offspring when he's old enough to breed. 20180623_190048.jpg
 

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I had never seen a tortoise with blue eyes, is it rare?
I've only seen pics of one other Redfoot on here, and a Box turtle from AZ tortoise compound with blue eyes. I think maybe I seen @Yvonne G with one with cool color eyes too? My memory isn't the greatest lol.
 

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I've got a juvenile Redfoot that has blue eyes. I'm wondering, or hoping, that maybe it will carry over to some future offspring when he's old enough to breed. View attachment 267713
I remember the debate.
A lot of folks thought you had done some photo editing.
 

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I remember the debate.
A lot of folks thought you had done some photo editing.
Ya nobody beloved me at first lol. I didn't even believe it. I seen the thread with the other blue eyed Redfoot and went and looked at mine and was shocked.
 

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I have seen a box turtle (in the wild) with pink everywhere it was supposed to be yellow (absence of pigment I suppose). G. Mendel would be interested
 
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