Sulcata Pair - 20 year old female & 10 year old male up for adoption

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Both Tortoises are very friendly & social. They are a pair, & are very attached to each other so they must be adopted together. These are not for beginners, you must be experienced with Sulcata Tortoises. The male weighs over 70 lbs. and the female weighs over 100 lbs.

We are in South Bay California
 

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Really hate to burst your bubble, but your Sulcatas are not attached to each other, and it would be much better to give them to someone who can keep them separate. Sulcatas are solitary, territorial tortoises that literally do not have a concept of friendship. Things that look like affection, like “cuddling”, “following”, sharing a hide when others are available, and just being together in general are all one tortoise trying to push, chase, and stress the other out of its territory. Tortoises should never be kept in pairs regardless of species or gender, because in pairs, there is always a dominant and a subordinate. One is constantly being bullied, and the other can’t get the intruder out of it’s territory. Both are constantly stressed.

Really hope you find a home for them. Good luck!
 

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Both Tortoises are very friendly & social. They are a pair, & are very attached to each other so they must be adopted together. These are not for beginners, you must be experienced with Sulcata Tortoises. The male weighs over 70 lbs. and the female weighs over 100 lbs.

We are in South Bay California
Hello, If you still have your tortoises I would be willing to give them a good home. I have had them in the past and have over 5 acres for them. Let e know, john
 

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Are you willing to ship? I'm in Arkansas and would love to give them a home
 

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What’s your zip code I have tons of space and I have sulcata about 18 years now.
 

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Really hate to burst your bubble, but your Sulcatas are not attached to each other, and it would be much better to give them to someone who can keep them separate. Sulcatas are solitary, territorial tortoises that literally do not have a concept of friendship. Things that look like affection, like “cuddling”, “following”, sharing a hide when others are available, and just being together in general are all one tortoise trying to push, chase, and stress the other out of its territory. Tortoises should never be kept in pairs regardless of species or gender, because in pairs, there is always a dominant and a subordinate. One is constantly being bullied, and the other can’t get the intruder out of it’s territory. Both are constantly stressed.

Really hope you find a home for them. Good luck!

My profile pic proves otherwise
 

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My profile pic proves otherwise

No, it proves my point. Tortoises use “cuddling”, “following”, sleeping in the same hide, sitting on food, and just being together in general as a way to push, chase, and stress the other tortoise out of it’s territory. It is in no way a sign of affection, and these are completely solitary animals.

In addition, it is insanely dangerous that these two species are being mixed. Both require different care and diets, and it is a huge risk for the spread of diseases.

They only look affectionate because you are projecting emotions onto them. Are those your tortoises?
 

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If these guys are still in need of a good home we would love to care for them. We’re located in Nashville and have 2 other large sulcatas, along with caiman and other reptiles. Plenty of space to roam and graze. Hope they find a good home!
 

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Hello, If you still have your tortoises I would be willing to give them a good home. I have had them in the past and have over 5 acres for them. Let e know, john
Oregon is NOT the best place for large sulcata!
 

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No photos, first post, just joined, all leading to one thing---a possible scam. Be careful guys.

And yes, torts should never be kept in pairs. What TechnoCheese what correct, you guys should listen to them.
 

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No, it proves my point. Tortoises use “cuddling”, “following”, sleeping in the same hide, sitting on food, and just being together in general as a way to push, chase, and stress the other tortoise out of it’s territory. It is in no way a sign of affection, and these are completely solitary animals.

In addition, it is insanely dangerous that these two species are being mixed. Both require different care and diets, and it is a huge risk for the spread of diseases.

They only look affectionate because you are projecting emotions onto them. Are those your tortoises?

I assume you just go along a try to prove your tortoise intellect through the forums( bursting bubbles). You are saying “portraying emotions” as if these animals are incapable of compassion. What do you get out of pointing out that two sulcata can’t be attached? There’s a difference between a captive bred tortoise and a wild tortoise. Assuming they are both captive bred you can’t be so quick to generalize them. This is a heavily discussed topic which I’m not about to get into. And yes they are my tortoise’s and I am aware of all the diet and care. Along with the disease spread. There are more than meets the eye with these animals that can be studied. I’m not in any way saying I know everything about tortoises but with 5 years of caring for them and talking to breeders you pick up knowledge not just stuff you can look up on the internet.
 

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I assume you just go along a try to prove your tortoise intellect through the forums( bursting bubbles). You are saying “portraying emotions” as if these animals are incapable of compassion. What do you get out of pointing out that two sulcata can’t be attached? There’s a difference between a captive bred tortoise and a wild tortoise. Assuming they are both captive bred you can’t be so quick to generalize them. This is a heavily discussed topic which I’m not about to get into. And yes they are my tortoise’s and I am aware of all the diet and care. Along with the disease spread. There are more than meets the eye with these animals that can be studied. I’m not in any way saying I know everything about tortoises but with 5 years of caring for them and talking to breeders you pick up knowledge not just stuff you can look up on the internet.

What do you get out of pointing out that two sulcata CAN be attached? Can you give any arguments beside saying I just know it? Since you seem to value experience why not value the experience of very long time tortoise keepers here? Technocheese is not trying to prove her intellect it’s okay to critisize something you don’t agree with that’s part of what a forum is for.
 

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What do you get out of pointing out that two sulcata CAN be attached? Can you give any arguments beside saying I just know it? Since you seem to value experience why not value the experience of very long time tortoise keepers here? Technocheese is not trying to prove her intellect it’s okay to critisize something you don’t agree with that’s part of what a forum is for.

Why to argue more ? I get nothing. This post is assumed fake so I don’t see any reason for further discussion. I’m not here to prove knowledge on tortoises. I see that there’s a lot of generalizing on this forum. Rubs me the wrong way when ppl are quick to generalize. I’ll probably just end up deleting this app anyway
 

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I assume you just go along a try to prove your tortoise intellect through the forums( bursting bubbles). You are saying “portraying emotions” as if these animals are incapable of compassion. What do you get out of pointing out that two sulcata can’t be attached? There’s a difference between a captive bred tortoise and a wild tortoise. Assuming they are both captive bred you can’t be so quick to generalize them. This is a heavily discussed topic which I’m not about to get into. And yes they are my tortoise’s and I am aware of all the diet and care. Along with the disease spread. There are more than meets the eye with these animals that can be studied. I’m not in any way saying I know everything about tortoises but with 5 years of caring for them and talking to breeders you pick up knowledge not just stuff you can look up on the internet.

Lol, what do I get from telling people that their tortoises are not attached? The satisfaction that the tortoises may be separated, and that they can continue happy lives without the stress of an intruder in their territory. When tortoises live together, there is almost always one that does so much worse than the other, and both are constantly stressed. For example, your redfoot appears much more pyramided than your sulcata.

And yes, I am saying that these animals are incapable of having feelings for one another. Tortoises have only been domesticated for a few decades. In no way is this enough time for huge evolutionary changes to take place, that cause an animal with features only for there survival to gain features that they do not need at all: love for one another. These are solitary, territorial animals in the wild, and when they meet, they either carry on their way, mate, fight, or all of the above.

Additionally, if these changes were to take place, it likely wouldn’t happen with a solitary creature as ancient as a tortoise, who’s descendants been around for at least 220 million years.

Think about it like this. Humans do not need to fly to survive, because we are terrestrial. Humans do not have wings.

Tortoises do not need to love each other to survive, because they are solitary animals and do not rely on each other in the wild beyond mating. They do not have the hormones, as developed frontal lobes as communal creatures.

They are not tortoises, but female box turtles have been shown to have increased amounts of testosterone when housed together, causing them to be more aggressive. But that’s because they love each other, right?

I’m not sure why you feel the need to house two species with entirely different needs, temperaments, and continents of origin together, but if you feel that risking your pet’s lives in such way is justified, carry on.
 

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So you have had these two sully’s for years together and you see them cuddling and so with your experience and the ones you talked to you concluded it was affection. Now you learn that this cuddling might actually be aggression because tortoises behave in a way that has indeed been studied and a way that might not be our instinct to comprehend. Doesn’t that make you curious of why this might be true? Don’t you want to know more for the sake of your tortoises in case that we might be right?
 

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Lol, what do I get from telling people that their tortoises are not attached? The satisfaction that the tortoises may be separated, and that they can continue happy lives without the stress of an intruder in their territory. When tortoises live together, there is almost always one that does so much worse than the other, and both are constantly stressed. For example, your redfoot appears much more pyramided than your sulcata.

And yes, I am saying that these animals are incapable of having feelings for one another. Tortoises have only been domesticated for a few decades. In no way is this enough time for huge evolutionary changes to take place, that cause an animal with features only for there survival to gain features that they do not need at all: love for one another. These are solitary, territorial animals in the wild, and when they meet, they either carry on their way, mate, fight, or all of the above.

Additionally, if these changes were to take place, it likely wouldn’t happen with a solitary creature as ancient as a tortoise, who’s descendants been around for at least 220 million years.

Think about it like this. Humans do not need to fly to survive, because we are terrestrial. Humans do not have wings.

Tortoises do not need to love each other to survive, because they are solitary animals and do not rely on each other in the wild beyond mating. They do not have the hormones, as developed frontal lobes as communal creatures.

They are not tortoises, but female box turtles have been shown to have increased amounts of testosterone when housed together, causing them to be more aggressive. But that’s because they love each other, right?

I’m not sure why you feel the need to house two species with entirely different needs, temperaments, and continents of origin together, but if you feel that risking your pet’s lives in such way is justified, carry on.

The redfoot is a rescue the sulcata I’ve had since a baby from a breeder. I’m against petshops. Ironically the redfoot I bought from a petshop that had it in such bad living conditions. There so many flaws in your arguement. Example : you comparing a box turtle with a sulcata/redfoot. Everyone can use wikipedia not impressed with your writing.
 

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The redfoot is a rescue the sulcata I’ve had since a baby from a breeder. I’m against petshops. Ironically the redfoot I bought from a petshop that had it in such bad living conditions. There so many flaws in your arguement. Example : you comparing a box turtle with a sulcata/redfoot. Everyone can use wikipedia not impressed with your writing.

In what way am I trying to impress people with my writing? This is a forum, not AP English. And, I already pointed out that it’s not the same as a tortoise. My point was that, seeing as they are somewhat similar, a similar finding might be found in the future.
 
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