Scientific study proves spice ramson kills tortoises

I have never heard of the spice, but please be aware. Vets were unable to save a sulcata and and aldabra under their care that had been poisoned. Two other aldabras were saved after being treated with charcoal.

https://www.jherpmedsurg.com/doi/full/10.5818/18-07-163.1

It's also known as buckram or wild garlic. Its a plant as well

Crazy. I have never heard of that. It is good to know.

Wow, how sad. I've never heard of that plant.

Shoot, I couldn’t read the article before because I had a weak signal; of course I know what ramps are and I wouldn’t have expected this.

Wild onions grow in so many places—including some parts of Africa—it’s hard to see how many species of tortoise wouldn’t have have some defenses against them. Russians allegedly eat some in the wild and mine mine really enjoys the occasional tops of green onion as well as chives.

The article does say they ate large quantities but regardless, it’s enough reason not to let most tortoises have any. One big tortoise lost is too many.

Interesting. I only read the Abstract, which doesn't really say how MUCH they ate. Or access to other foods (or water). Id think that most of us have some wild garlic growing here and there...

• A group of four captive tortoises, including one Aldabra giant tortoise (Aldabrachelys gigantea) and three African spurred tortoises (Centrochelys sulcata), was fed a large quantity of ramson foliage.

Description
Allium ursinum, known as wild garlic, ramsons, buckrams, broad-leaved garlic, wood garlic, bear leek or bear's garlic, is a bulbous perennial flowering plant in the lily family Amaryllidaceae. It is a wild relative of onion, native to Europe and Asia, where it grows in moist woodland. Wikipedia

Scientific name: Allium ursinum

Family: Amaryllidaceae Did you know: Ramsons' leaves are easily mistaken for Lily of the Valley leaves, and sometimes also with the leaves of Colchicum autumnale and Arum maculatum. somersetwildlife.org

Is wild garlic a bulb plant? I know bulb plants are wildly toxic. Were these animals in the same area? Could they have been exsposed to something toxic( a posion of some type)?

It’s a bulb plant. I still but I can’t see why bulbs are bad, exactly. Is it just the bulb? Or the entire plant?