Baytril questions!

Hi everyone,

I have a 2 year old red foot, she recently chipped her beak and was taken to the vets to get it sorted. They were great and trimmed it up nice and gave us some baytril in liquid form to give to her. We did as instructed and then moments later she vommitted everywhere.

Has anyone got any advise? The vets are closed now so I have no one to contact about it, should we carry on with the baytril?

Thanks

I wouldn't give it again if she vomited after receiving it. Does your vet have an after hours number?

No out of hours number surprisingly. I can call them tomorrow though.

That is surprising.... I would wait and call em tomorrow then. Just my opinion. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving my little'un something that makes em sick.

That's what I thought, it actually really panicked me at first! She seems ok at the moment though, she's eating so at least that's something. I'll call the vets again tomorrow.

Thanks for your fast reply

Aww, that would scare me as well!!! Good luck - let us know what you find out! And you're welcome!

I don't understand why an antibiotic was required for a beak trimming. Was there blood involved?

Baytril is very invasive - stings when injected and tastes bad when given orally. I really don't like the idea of using an antibiotic just in case. If there was a test done and an infection determined, then ok, use it...but as a preventative? I don't like it.

Yvonne, there was very slight bleeding when the chip first happened but nearly nothing afterwards.

I think it has been given as a preventative measure as there were no tests done to diagnose an infection.
I will call the vets tomorrow to see what they say.

Thank you for your reply.

it's almost the same as if you had broken your own fingernail down below the quick. Bleeds a little - hurts a lot, but the risk of infection is low. And why use such a strong antibiotic when there's such a low risk?

I agree with Yvonne, you keep a wound clean and prevent infection. Antibiotics should only be used when needed and not as a preventative measure... especially in a world where antibiotic resistance is increasing.

JoesMum said:

I agree with Yvonne, you keep a wound clean and prevent infection. Antibiotics should only be used when needed and not as a preventative measure... especially in a world where antibiotic resistance is increasing.

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I agree with you and Yvonne.

Yvonne G said:

it's almost the same as if you had broken your own fingernail down below the quick. Bleeds a little - hurts a lot, but the risk of infection is low. And why use such a strong antibiotic when there's such a low risk?

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I like that analogy. Will have to remember that later.

Thanks guys! Really appreciate the information and the advice! I'll call the vet tomorrow and let you know how little Teefa gets on!

I'm sorry.. just wanna know, how can she chipped her beak.? thnks

Marrufamar, we're not entirely sure how she has managed to do it but we will be keeping an eye on her to make sure everything is ok

A beak can be chipped quite easily while eating, it happens, like breaking a fingernail. I am concerned about prescribing an antibiotic for a beak trim, esp. baytrill, We have seen many threads here on them getting sick, from taking. it.

I've uploaded a before/after pic of her broken beak and then it being sorted by the vet.

She's eating normally again now so that's always good news

Baytril is a good, strong direct antibiotic for a true infection.....but should not be handed out like candy....for a slight beak crack/break...I would just be sure to keep the affected area flushed with warm water a few times a day to keep it clean and keep an eye on the beak....if the tort is eating and is business as usual then I would wait on the strong antibiotic, just what "I" would do

Thanks for your advice ascott, we've been bathing it with warm water everyday and she seems like she's doing fine so that's the main thing

I have used Baytril for many years as this was the only “suggested” Meds at the time. I have had better luck with ‘Ceftazidime. Or a combo of the two as many bacteria's' have become tolerant to the older meds such as Baytril.
Ceftazidime, an antibiotic, to help treat your infection. The drug is injected into a large muscle such as front forelimb
Pseudomonas aeruginosa is a common bacterium that can cause disease in reptiles, animals and humans.
Description: Greenish gray colonies with some beta-hemolysis around each colony on blood agar (BAP), clear pale colonies on maconkey agar (MAC) & no growth on Columbia agar (CNA).
Source of infection: Primary infection of ears, respiratory and often wounds. Most species are often contaminate with un-treated/infected water sources.
The bacteria itself is routinely susceptible to: Amikacin, Baytril, Ciprofloxacin, Gentamicin, Polymixin B, Ceftazidime, Marbofloxacin, and often Ticarcillin.
Routinely resistant to: Ampicillin, Cephalothin, Clavamox, Clindamycin, Chloramphenicol, Erythromycin, Penicillin, Tetracycline, Sulfa/Trimeth, Doxycycline and Nitrofurantoin,
Respiratory infections in tortoises can be a really long battle and if ignored, a deadly disease. It takes a long time to treat and the drugs we use to combat bacterial lung infections like RI’s.. A few things to help with recovery is to soak your tort at least 2x a day in luke warm water. Don’t worry if you don’t see her/him drink much as they can absorb fluids and hydrate from the cloaca as well. Bump your temps up …and stay constant with these higher temps. Almost all medications will make your tortoise stop eating in some cases. Don’t worry as tortoises can go a very long time without eating (weeks) , provided they have fluid intake.
SEPARATE ALL ANIMALS AND QUARENTEENE as THIS BACTERIA is HIGHLY INFECTIOUS
JD~