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    Do I still need basking light when it's hot?

    And if you reread my original comment, you will quite clearly see that they had the option to bask because they had the option to go outside. It just so happens that one sat in the shade by the back door monitoring the environment all day and occasionally napping while the other spent all day...
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    Do I still need basking light when it's hot?

    I'm fully aware. However, tortoises retain core heat for a long time once adequately warmed up. 8+ hours on average according to a study I read a few months ago that was done by a Tort conservation group in Spain. It also takes them around 25-45 minutes to become adequately warmed up...
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    Do I still need basking light when it's hot?

    Although I agree with Tom, I believe it's very dependant on what kind of heat we're talking about. For example, it hit 43°c for 8 days straight during a heatwave here last year. Record temps for us in Britain. Needless to say, they spent most of the days outside. In that kind of heat, it simply...
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    Adult Greek (ibera) price?

    Sure Sure, here's one.
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    Adult Greek (ibera) price?

    Housing isn't an issue, nor is space. They're kept in their own enclosures, not together, and only interact momentarily when supervised. I don't mean to be rude, but you're coming across as pretty presumptuous with this... I mean, I said I wasn't familiar with pricing, not care, knowledge or...
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    Adult Greek (ibera) price?

    We usually pay a fair bit more than you guys. Anywhere from 10-25% more on average I'd say, but I see what you're saying. I'm probably going to end up asking if he would drop the price by £50 and I'll also turn down the incubator as I already have access to some at work that I can bring home...
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    Adult Greek (ibera) price?

    Yep, that sounds very accurate in my opinion. Years back, people here would often seek out things to buy from the US to have imported over because even with fees and shipping, you'd still be paying less than prices over here. Can't be done anymore though as shipping is insane now. Very true...
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    Adult Greek (ibera) price?

    Hey all, Not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm not sure where else I can turn for opinions. Last year, I purchased two baby Greeks from a highly-regarded breeder in my region. They are both doing fantasically and growing up nicely. I stayed in contact with the breeder to give...
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    At what point does euthanasia become a valid option?

    Update: I made the phone call this afternoon. After a lengthy discussion with the vet, we came to the decision that euthanasia is the best option. Maul has an appointment tomorrow afternoon at 1:30 to be put to sleep with an overdose of Ketamine. I have been told that we are allowed to take...
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    At what point does euthanasia become a valid option?

    Ah, understood, my mistake! I assumed you wanted to see photos, but now I understand what you meant. Sadly, yes, she behaves as though she is in considerable pain. Touching her rear end makes her trash around and ryn away. When she walks, she drags her left foot and has an odd limp, as if the...
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    At what point does euthanasia become a valid option?

    I have posted a few photos of her in another reply, if you'd like to see for yourself. I agree. Unfortunately, we're unable to have her examined right now due to the state of the economy and the price rises that are happening as a result. What used to be £80 for a basic check-up is now £105...
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    At what point does euthanasia become a valid option?

    Thank you. She is a case of pretty extreme, prolonged neglect, so take good care of 'em and they'll never have to face the daily torture Maul has to live through every day. Keep them happy and you'll have a friend for life.
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    At what point does euthanasia become a valid option?

    I must admit, I feared that this would be the responses I would get... Man, it sucks. I feel so sorry for her, but I completely understand and agree with everything you said. I just wish we could have helped her more, but there is only so much we can do with what we're given... Thank you for the...
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    At what point does euthanasia become a valid option?

    I have a good amount of experience, I also have two graeca (kept well away and seperated from Maul, don't worry about that), but I have never had to think about euthanasia before meeting Maul. To put it simply, she is the sickest Tortoise I have ever seen in person, in front of my own eyes. I...
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    At what point does euthanasia become a valid option?

    Thanks for the reply. I'm completely aware of how bad MBD is - I work at a bioactive supply shop, so people often bring us their sick animals with this idea that we can 'help' it... All we ever say is go to a vet. I know it's expensive, but we aren't trained like that. The condition is awful...
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    At what point does euthanasia become a valid option?

    Hey, all. Long time lurker, first time poster. Big fan of the site, so I'm hoping to get some advice from those more experienced and wiser than I. Essentially, I am wondering at what point do you declare the quality of life to be so poor that euthanasia becomes a justifiable decision? The...
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