Affordable healthcare act upheld

[exoticsdr]

Makes me wonder.....let's have a show of hands. For the opponents of Obamacare....how many of you are going to to discuss your feelings on the matter with your healthcare provider at your next visit...I know I did with mine, fortunately it was after the prostate exam...didn't want to get her too worked up...smile. Now, how about the Obamacare supporters? Any of you going to espouse the wisdom of your President's law with your healthcare provider? Doc

I do not...understand the point that you are making. Are you suggesting that all doctors and health care providers are inherently against Obamacare? That is certainly not the case.

I'm all for Obamacare, I think it is an amazing thing, especially in regards to women's healthcare and affordable birth control. I'm sure that healthcare providers and doctors who are interested in those things feel the same way.

If this is some sort of challenge that you are issuing, I'll take it. I will happily talk to every doctor I see about my support of the act.

I think the point, I am obviously making, is YES....MOST physicians and healthcare professionals are inherently against Obamacare....unless you are dealing with back alley herbalists, witchdoctors (no offense to witchdoctors), and meth producers (that obviously could care less)...and unless you are daft. who in their right mind is going to be excited that the government is going to tell them what their services and knowledge are worth? None-the-less, I will be ready to hear a TRUTHFUL account of any conversation that you have with your healthcare provider (that is provided they ARE NOT a back alley herbalist, a witchdoctore or meth producer....though I may lend some creadance to semi-professional gynecologists)

 

[wellington]

I'm retired from the phone company. I've been retired for almost 20 years. And the phone company STILL pays my health care premiums. Obamacare wants to do away with that.

I don't know why you think that. As long as you have insurance, you don't have to go get more. Your already covered. Obama is trying to make people that can afford their own health care insurance to go get it and stop spongeing off of everyone else. He is not trying to stop anything but the wealthy and lazy spongers

 

[NudistApple]

I think the point, I am obviously making, is YES....MOST physicians and healthcare professionals are inherently against Obamacare....unless you are dealing with back alley herbalists, witchdoctors (no offense to witchdoctors), and meth producers (that obviously could care less)...and unless you are daft. who in their right mind is going to be excited that the government is going to tell them what their services and knowledge are worth? None-the-less, I will be ready to hear a TRUTHFUL account of any conversation that you have with your healthcare provider (that is provided they ARE NOT a back alley herbalist, a witchdoctore or meth producer....though I may lend some creadance to semi-professional gynecologists)

Now you are suggesting that gynecologists are on the same level as back-alley herbalists, witchdoctors or meth producers? I had no idea that gynecology wasn't as respected as the rest of the medical field.

O wait. Yes it is.

The health care provider I was referring to could have been an opthamologist, general physician, podiatrist, dermatologist or YES, even my gynecologist. Hell, I will talk to one of the vets I take my animals to. I'm pretty sure none of them are even remotely considered the sorts of people you were listing. I do not understand why you need be insulting about this.

 

[exoticsdr]

I think the point, I am obviously making, is YES....MOST physicians and healthcare professionals are inherently against Obamacare....unless you are dealing with back alley herbalists, witchdoctors (no offense to witchdoctors), and meth producers (that obviously could care less)...and unless you are daft. who in their right mind is going to be excited that the government is going to tell them what their services and knowledge are worth? None-the-less, I will be ready to hear a TRUTHFUL account of any conversation that you have with your healthcare provider (that is provided they ARE NOT a back alley herbalist, a witchdoctore or meth producer....though I may lend some creadance to semi-professional gynecologists)

Now you are suggesting that gynecologists are on the same level as back-alley herbalists, witchdoctors or meth producers? I had no idea that gynecology wasn't as respected as the rest of the medical field.

O wait. Yes it is.

The health care provider I was referring to could have been an opthamologist, general physician, podiatrist, dermatologist or YES, even my gynecologist. Hell, I will talk to one of the vets I take my animals to. I'm pretty sure none of them are even remotely considered the sorts of people you were listing. I do not understand why you need be insulting about this.

hahahahaha.....you may have a great future with ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, or CNN.

 

[NudistApple]

Shame I work for the parks department, I guess.

 

[wellington]

We wouldn't even have to have any of these kinds of discussions. This country would be sitting real pretty, if Hillary, a woman, would have made president
After all, most woman runs the household, and wears the pants. Not really sure why this county hasn't gotten smart enough to let one run the countries household.

 

[exoticsdr]

Shame I work for the parks department, I guess.

shame indeed...you could have a great future in politics ( you realize, I've just been playing with you, right?...don't get upset...it's all in good fun)...though my question in my original post is very serious. I have family, friends, aquaintances and clients that are in the health care industry and ALL of them are horrified at the prospect of Obamacare. Thankfully, we vets are exempt at this time....but it's only time until they will try to regulate our care also. Doc

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

The one thing I really don't understand. How is it that Obama is blamed for the economy? Has everyone forgot that idiot Bush ruined us! With the way Bush done this country in, something has to be done. The job situation sucks, which in turn makes a whole lot of people out of work and out of insurance. I don't mind my tax money going to help those who have tried to help themselves, but I am really tired of my money paying for the lazy SOB's that just want to sit on their asses and collect a check. That's where most of our over paying for insurance and health care goes, the lazy. The lazy that rolls up in a limo at Cook County Hospital(now Stroger hospital) in Chicago for their hospital appointments, we are paying for. Also the lazy person from Indiana, that some how gets away with going to that same hospital on my dime. Personally, we can all blame Bush for this mess and be thankful that at least Obama is trying to get it straightened out. Good or bad plan, I think a little of both. Is there a better plan, most likely.

Well stated...I see this as being the start of ALL of America having access to decent health-care, and, while it by no means a perfect system, it's a VAST improvement over the situation 24 hours ago.

It got thrown out way before the time you are referring to. Like 8 years before.

It started getting thrown out January 20th, 1981

 

[Kerryann]

Shame I work for the parks department, I guess.

shame indeed...you could have a great future in politics ( you realize, I've just been playing with you, right?...don't get upset...it's all in good fun)...though my question in my original post is very serious. I have family, friends, aquaintances and clients that are in the health care industry and ALL of them are horrified at the prospect of Obamacare. Thankfully, we vets are exempt at this time....but it's only time until they will try to regulate our care also. Doc

All of our friends who are doctors are unhappy about it too.
I can say that I have 4 employees who are Canadians (My company is in Detroit so Windsor is right across the river) and out of the 4, 3 pay for the health coverage. One guy told me that in Canada if they have an issue and need to see a specialist you just suffer or die in most cases because the wait is so long.

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

What I would really like to see, is the senate and congress having to live like the rest of us do. Meaning giving up their special health insurance, retirement plans, ect.., Once they come down to the normal Joe Blow's level perhpas real change and good change could happen. ... Then again, I really want us to lose the party system and just start trying to hire the best man/woman for the job regardless of their party beliefs, their color, creed, sexual preference, ect.., Why do we think so little of those we hire to make the laws of our country, then we do about other business with less importance to our lives and futures? Seriously, can you imagine if all business hired with the main reason to hire somebody being what party they belong to?

100% agreement.

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

I'm retired from the phone company. I've been retired for almost 20 years. And the phone company STILL pays my health care premiums. Obamacare wants to do away with that.

I don't know why you think that. As long as you have insurance, you don't have to go get more. Your already covered. Obama is trying to make people that can afford their own health care insurance to go get it and stop spongeing off of everyone else. He is not trying to stop anything but the wealthy and lazy spongers

Correct!

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

I'm retired from the phone company. I've been retired for almost 20 years. And the phone company STILL pays my health care premiums. Obamacare wants to do away with that.

I don't know why you think that. As long as you have insurance, you don't have to go get more. Your already covered. Obama is trying to make people that can afford their own health care insurance to go get it and stop spongeing off of everyone else. He is not trying to stop anything but the wealthy and lazy spongers

Correct!

It's interesting how many Americans know nothing about the issue, other than what the talking heads on Faux Noise have carefully spoon-fed to them.

I've found that by thinking for myself, rather than listening to the Demopublican and/or Republicrat (two sides of the same counterfeit coin) talking heads, I can face the day w/o too much fear or worry.

 

[wellington]

Boy exoticsdr, your just full of it tonight. The heat getting to ya. Or maybe something else, hmmm

 

[terryo]

I'm retired from the phone company. I've been retired for almost 20 years. And the phone company STILL pays my health care premiums. Obamacare wants to do away with that.

The same with my husband and myself Yvonne. These large companies are able to drop our insurance now with just a $2,000 fine, which would be much cheaper than continuing to give us insurance. After working for 40 years for the same company, we now stand a good chance of loosing our medical coverage, and will have to pay out of our own pocket. So what do we do now, if we aren't poor enough to get everything free, and not rich enough to pay for good coverage?

 

[TurtleTortoise]

Ok, ok, everybody get a good nights rest why dont ya

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The same with my husband and myself Yvonne. These large companies are able to drop our insurance now with just a $2,000 fine, which would be much cheaper than continuing to give us insurance. After working for 40 years for the same company, we now stand a good chance of loosing our medical coverage, and will have to pay out of our own pocket. So what do we do now, if we aren't poor enough to get everything free, and not rich enough to pay for good coverage?

Good point

 

[ALDABRAMAN]

We are so screwed. I'm speechless.

 

[EricIvins]

It's amazing how talking Politics turns people into idiots real quick.......

Who here has actual experince in the political arena?

 

[Tom]

There are two kinds of people in our society:
1. Those who live off the system. (government employees, welfare recipients, etc...)
2. Those who make the money to fund the system. (Me, Doc, Jeff, Mike, formerly Yvonne and Terryo, and many others)

I read an article that speculated that society has a tipping point at which it can no longer support itself. They estimated that that tipping point was 39%. In other words, when 39% of the population is on the dole, society collapses. It is estimated that we are at 33-36% and rapidly climbing. Everybody ready for what's coming? It's gonna get ugly. Real ugly.

I do have to agree with TAH about the two parties being opposite sides of the same counterfeit coin. Both parties are screwing us over. Big time. We can argue all day long about which party is screwing us the worse. Personally, I think they are laughing while we argue.

 

[acrantophis]

Romney is pushing his "repeal and replace Obamacare". Which is identical to Obamacare, apart from it being a tax. So they only differ on how Americans will pay for the plan. Everything else is the same. Remember he has a similar plan already in
Place in Massachusetts. How he plans on paying for it is a mystery.

 

[dmmj]

The difference for me is a state level if I don't like living in Mass. then I can move to another state, under this plan (ACA) I have no such option. I am also curious how he plans on funding it. I dislike being forced to buy something, being forced to enter into a private contract. I don't see how this can be considered a free country if I am being forced to buy something.