I have one out out 24 moringa trees that has survived my 20+lb Sulcata who loves to munch the whole tree down to the soil. I had to put cinder blocks all around the base of the lne tree to prevent her from eating it too. She obviously loves it. I bought my seeds online. Easy to start. I planted mine I believe the beginning of last summer and it's about 6' tall now, not very thick trunk of course but hey 6' in about 6 months, not too bad.Moringa! Good for torts and good for you/us. Easy peasy fast grower and you can harvest away often. We, tort geeks, and everyone else, should ALL be planting moringa trees for health and for helping. Miracle tree, really. I will now let you all do your own research. Ready, set .... google away.