Burned Off or Damaged Carapace Scutes

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Will his she’ll ever regrow scutes.
It IS fully healed. What you see is new keratin, new shell. It will never look like the old shell because the old shell put on new growth a bit at a time, making the scute pattern. Because of the overall injury, this new growth happened all at once, over time, so no scute pattern. Scutes are keratin. The new growth on this tortoise is keratin. Same thing, just a different appearance.
 

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It IS fully healed. What you see is new keratin, new shell. It will never look like the old shell because the old shell put on new growth a bit at a time, making the scute pattern. Because of the overall injury, this new growth happened all at once, over time, so no scute pattern. Scutes are keratin. The new growth on this tortoise is keratin. Same thing, just a different appearance.
Thanks, I was just curious and still learning.
 

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image.jpg image.jpg I have one like that as well he has been with me 12 years but his last owner let him tip a propain heater over on himself. Forever scarred but helthy and happy and growing now
He is around the 100lb range
 

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Nice to see so much improvement on his shell. You did good. Thanks for the update on this guy.
 

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Thank you for the interesting pictures! It's amazing how they are able to just build a new layer of keratin over a new layer of bone, but I wonder how the new shell "knows" where the edges of the scutes were supposed to be. But the new growth seems to look similar to the original scutes (except for the coloration), doesn't it?
 
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The Clovis Turtle and Tortoise Rescue took in a 'found' male sulcata this a.m. and he's a perfect example of new shell growing under old, damaged shell. Who knows what happened to make his shell end up damaged like this, but it was more than likely from a heat/light positioned too close to the top of the shell.

First a look at the overall view of the damage. The majority of what you see on the carapace is the new keratin/shell:

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In this next picture, I'm showing how the old, dead bone is lifting and flaking off, showing all the new keratin/shell underneath:

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That white point under my finger is the old or original bone that died during the "accident."

The next are just two overall shots so you can sort of get an idea of his size. I didn't weigh him, but he's maybe about 80lbs:

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Growing new shell can take years. It's quite possible his accident happened 5 or 10 years ago and it has taken this long for the new growth to start pushing up the old, dead bone and shell.

I had it in mind I was going to mow the backyard today, but looks like now I won't have to. He's eating like there's no tomorrow.
Sulcata is a
The Clovis Turtle and Tortoise Rescue took in a 'found' male sulcata this a.m. and he's a perfect example of new shell growing under old, damaged shell. Who knows what happened to make his shell end up damaged like this, but it was more than likely from a heat/light positioned too close to the top of the shell.

First a look at the overall view of the damage. The majority of what you see on the carapace is the new keratin/shell:

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In this next picture, I'm showing how the old, dead bone is lifting and flaking off, showing all the new keratin/shell underneath:

View attachment 208777

That white point under my finger is the old or original bone that died during the "accident."

The next are just two overall shots so you can sort of get an idea of his size. I didn't weigh him, but he's maybe about 80lbs:

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Growing new shell can take years. It's quite possible his accident happened 5 or 10 years ago and it has taken this long for the new growth to start pushing up the old, dead bone and shell.

I had it in mind I was going to mow the backyard today, but looks like now I won't have to. He's eating like there's no tomorrow.
Sulcatas are great animals and are very easy to take care of if you are able to. people buy them as pets because they are cool because they get that big or because the buyer was careless. A salcata is very easy to deal with when they are big but only if you are able to take care of something that big when they are young is where the real question comes in if you are able to raise a tortoise like this heat lamps,uvblights,sand,water,food right temperature in the area clean tank or living space so are you ready to raise one and make sure your family after your gone is ready to see the life of this tortoise because if he out lives you. You was a great owner of this slow walking knowledge container I’m just saying when you buy a Sulcata your giving him or her your life so just don’t be careless
Or rough with these amazing creatures take your time and study before you go through with getting one because in my opinion this is what happened here just did not no what they was suppose to do. PS Bless that tortoises hart he never deserved that but I would take care of him in a hart beat and grow older just to see his shell fully grown
 

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Yvonne,

There are no scutes (or more importantly, scute boundaries) on the new keratin growth that are visible to my eye. Are they present at all?
I am sort of curious if the new bone and keratin plates form in more or less the same arrangement as the original pattern.

Another way of looking at this, is what happens as he grows? Is growth permanently stunted due to the lack of bone and/or scute boundaries at the proper arrangement on his new shell?

I have seen healed shell damage before but nothing this extreme.

Steve
 

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That's right, there are now no scutes. Interesting question. Since growth occurrs between scutes how is this shell now going to grow?
 

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Poor sully, glad he is safe and well now.
My nephew's wife told me they used to have a tortoise when she was young and her dad pierced a hole in its shell so that they could tie it to a brick and stop it wandering off.:( Thankfully people know more about torts now - maybe that should be hopefully.
 

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That's right, there are now no scutes. Interesting question. Since growth occurrs between scutes how is this shell now going to grow?
I've been thinking about this, and figured out that because ALL that keratin on the carapace is "new growth" it will ALL just keep growing and expanding as he grows.
 

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