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Candling egg from day one to pip

Discussion in 'Tortoise Breeding' started by shellfreak, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. shellfreak

    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    I am doing some personal data collection on tortoise embryo formation. Attached are some pictures. Interesting to see how much change occurs every 24 hours. I will continue to update the success until this little tortoise hatches.
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    Love it. Thanks. Is that just a little pen light?
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    This is really great. The best pictures I have ever seen of candling. I can never get that good a view when I try it! Please keep this going.

    I do have detailed pictures of embryos of western painted turtles at all the 23 stages of development. Referring to them next to your timeline is really interesting as the embryos would look the same until the very end of development.

    How long from laying to pip for your greeks, normally? From that I can adjust the timeline of embryo stages. A "typical" C picta bellii is 53 days.

    It looks like you use open top containers for the eggs? Do you control humidity in the whole incubator then?

    Thank you for doing this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    I use open containers, humidity in the incubator is controlled by a separate deli cup filled with water.

    My Greeks on average hatch between day 70-90 b
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    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    A cheap flash light that I bought at 5 below. And yes it’s a tiny one.
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    Will Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    I really like what you are doing. I'm glad you have persevered against all the naysayers. Tortoise On.
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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    Love it. I have never been able to see anything going on inside my eggs. Keep it going and thank you.
    Btw, gotta know, are those stickers on the eggs or a a camera trick of some kind? Superimposed onto pic only?
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    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Temporary tattoos. I went through about 7 other ideas until my 9 year old son said he wanted a tortstork tattoo. So I ordered some for him. And one day it dawned on me...why not try it in an egg. And it has worked ever since.
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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    @shellfreak. May I ask - what do you use to wash the eggs? If tap water, what is the chemistry? Ph? tot alkalinity? Is there fluoride added??
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    This is awesome. Way to go!
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    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    I literally just run them under tap water. Luke warm and rub off all the slimy film.

    Is there evidence that fluoride, pH, etc causes harm to the egg? Would love to know more. Even if it’s a theory.

    Thanks.
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    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    I candled this morning, February 10th. This is day 31. Caught some movement, which is always nice to see. IMG_1678.jpg . Can’t post video here. But will post it on my instagram if you want to see it. @tort.stork
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    This is totally awesome. Thank you so much.
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    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    You’re welcome. I haven’t candled in a few days bc I just put a few new eggs into the incubator and they are chalking. I like to limit the opening of my incubator during the chalking period. But here is a picture of the chalking new eggs, I’ll also be documenting this one, once i see veins. This one is pretty special to me. My first sulcata egg... IMG_1824.jpg
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    I am looking forward to following your thread.
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    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    very nice pics, how do u clean those eggs? so clean .
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    shellfreak Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    I run them under Luke warm water.
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