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Cement Mixing Tub (Enclosure Ideas)

Discussion in 'Tortoise Enclosures' started by spjr6, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. Tom

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    It is difficult to use a basking lamp unless you go with one at least 18" tall.

    The other concern is how long you want it to last. If you get a 2x4' one it might last 6-9 months before the tortoise outgrows it. If you get the 8'x 36" one, it might last two or three years before the tortoise outgrows it.
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    Ok, if I decide to go that route, I’d most likely go with the 8’x36” one, hopefully to get more bang for my buck. But, I think I could build something myself and save a ton of money! lol.
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    In the past, I always built my own. Recently, I just bought there T65s. I don't think I will ever build one again.

    Maybe you will feel differently about it after building your own.
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    Any pictures of your AP cages and set up (lighting, che, hot spots) @Tom ?
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    I have a different tub but this is what I came up with. Not finished yet but it works fine.I even put a wheeled furniture trolley
    underneath so it can be rolled around 20180307_122559.jpg 20180307_122645.jpg
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    The stack is three high. All T65s. I had a heck of a time getting a light bulb that would offer a little basking heat, but not overheat the whole chamber.

    The bulb in the pic was too hot. I ended up using 39 watt regular round bulbs. These make the basking area around 93-97, which is good for babies, and they heat the whole enclosure up to the low 90s during the day. Just how I like it.

    I'm using little banks of LED lights to brighten it up in there. They are the type for mounting under kitchen counters. Had to wire them myself. These use hardly any electricity, produce very little heat, and with the white walls, they really make it bright in there. They were on sale and each unit cost $18.99. Very happy with them.

    These enclosures are in my reptile room which is kept no lower than 80 all the time, so no need for CHE or RHP to maintain ambient temps.

    No UV tubes for two reasons. 1. It would over heat the whole thing. 2. My babies get an hour of sun almost every day, so no need for it.

    The AP cages come with vents pre-cut into them. This annoyed me at first and before using the enclosures, I went and bought white duct tape and covered most of the venting. Once I started heating and using the cages I realized that I needed all the venting to prevent overheating. Humidity stays between 80% and 90% all the time and the cages warm up nicely during the day, so there is no problem with using the vents as is.

    Each T65 is divided in half with an 8" section of white coroplast to make two separate enclosures. Each enclosure has two water bowls, a humid hide, and a food bowl in the front corner that can't be seen in the pic. Bottom one is for SA Leopard babies, middle one for sulcatas, and upper one for stars. My thinking is that since I like to start babies for at least 6 weeks before selling, and sometimes I hang on to them for 8-12 weeks, I can keep the bigger older ones on one side, and put all the tiny new hatchlings on the other side. Each of these enclosure is dedicated to the babies of my adult tortoises of each species, and nothing else will ever set foot in them. This should almost eliminate the chance of any sort of pathogen ever being introduced into my enclosures.

    One thing I've started doing that is not shown in the pics is throwing in leafy branches of either lavatera, hibiscus, mulberry or grape vines for the babies to hide in, munch on and use for cover. The branches last for several days before wilting and needing to be replaced.

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    Tom if you can give me some ideas on my hold. Gonna build a outside hold for Opo. I was thinking 4'x8' cinder block 2 rows high. Use a 4'x8' chain link gate for the top to keep out critters. Opo will be a yr old in April about 4 1/2 In long.
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    Thanks for the info @Tom, helps put things in perspective as to how much heat and humidity these cages hold. I'm wondering if I need now 1 or 2 ceramic sockets since the fluorescent lights provide some ambient heat. Also having the screen cutouts and keeping the PVC to cover it up as needed is a nice idea to have some heat and humidity escape.
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    I would do two sockets. One for the basking bulb and one for the CHE on a thermostat.
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    Lots of ideas here:
    https://tortoiseforum.org/threads/outdoor-enclosures.121732/
    Look at post number 8 for several ideas from me.
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    Some of this stuff is hard to find. No problem with asking. :)
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    A minimum thickness of .22 for the plexiglas. I learned the hard way by going thinner as it bowed and cave in.
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