CLUELESS still...

[Redfoot NERD]

Jan. 14 2010 6p CDT.. in the dark..

Terry K

 

[terryo]

Is nothing happening? Why clueless?

 

[Candy]

Yes why clueless? Are you saying that because he's male?

 

[tortoiseman777]

why so clueless?? Dont you know they are playing leap frog!! lmao

 

[Redfoot NERD]

O.K. --- no one.. knows anyone.. who has ever hatched K. erosa -- in the UNITED STATES!

NERD

 

[stells]

Now Terry... they waited til it was dark... then you go and snap a picture

Next they will be wearing paperbags on their heads lol

 

[Stephanie Logan]

Now Terry... they waited til it was dark... then you go and snap a picture
Next they will be wearing paperbags on their heads lol

My thought exactly! They clearly want some privacy...

With those long plastrons mating must be awkward, maybe that's why there haven't been any hatchlings yet.

I'm sure it's not your enclosure at fault!!

 

[Redfoot NERD]

Nobody seems to appreciate the "milestone" here. According to my peers [ long term exotic breeders and Zoo Atlanta VP, etc. ] until recently.. no one has known anyone to successfully breed and hatch K. erosa in captivity.. in the US! I'm excited.

Clueless still...

NERD

 

[egyptiandan]

Oh it has been done Terry At the Honolulu zoo in 1980 and again in 1982. They got 6 hatchlings. It's all in a very good article from Reptiles magazine, October 1998. They incubated at 83F and hatchlings emerged between 155 and 164 days.

Sorry to burst the bubble *big hug*

Danny

 

[gummybearpoop]

I am not sure how many erosa they have hatched:
http://chelonianconservation.org/our-work/hatchlings



On Page 19 of TSA 2008 newsletter:
http://www.turtlesurvival.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/TSA_Aug2008_Newsletter_Lite.pdf

It states: "Over the past 3 years (2005-2008), the BCC has successfully hatched the following species"


Someone in the Arizona Herp. Association has eggs in the oven.

 

[Redfoot NERD]

No bubble here guys!

Any of "us" ever? I figured Honolulu.. any "civilians"?

Would you be so kind as to forward info from the Arizona Herp. Association please?

Here we go... gettin' closer!

Thanks...

Terry K

 

[egyptiandan]

A civilian in the UK in the late 90's is all I've heard of, Ashley Wood.

Danny

 

[gummybearpoop]

Would you be so kind as to forward info from the Arizona Herp. Association please?

Here we go... gettin' closer!

Thanks...

Terry K

There is a person part of the Arizona Herp. Association (AHA) that is working with them. I am an AHA member as well as a TSA member.

www.azreptiles.com

 

[tortoiseman777]

which AHA member?

(im a member too lol)

 

[gummybearpoop]

Nevermind. I reread the AHA thread and says breeding is occurring. I thought they already had eggs

http://www.azreptiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12000[hr]
tortoiseman777... were you at James Badman's tortoise presentation at the AHA meeting?

 

[gummybearpoop]

Either way....I forgot to congratulate you Terry.

Your group is thriving since you got them and it seems like things are just getting better for you and your group. Now let's get some eggs!!

 

[Jacqui]

I believe there was somebody and am trying to confirm the information. I do know Paula had one hatched that was half Erosa and half Bells.

All four of us (that I know of) that got Erosas from this same batch have been having them breeding. It's just nobody has eggs...yet.

 

[jlyoncc1]

Terry, I have confindence that if anyone can do it you will!

P.S. Still saving for a rf!

 

[Candy]

Why don't they have eggs? Is it a maturity issue?

 

[Jacqui]

I am not sure of the issues in the past, I would guess more that the care was wrong.

Of the four folks currently (of which Terry and I are two) who got this shipments Erosa, I got the smaller "leftover" ones, but even they are of size to lay eggs. So now size is not an issue. With these it's just time. Remember a year ago they were wild.

The group I had before these were added, had issues eating and were youngsters. They have now grown into just becoming adult size, but mine were females. One of the other guys had his group being sick/not eating, then once they were healthy, he had only males. After a couple of years of each of us working to get our animals healthy/growing and to start thinking of actively looking for mates, we got lucky with last year's shipments.