Wow one of the first people I've found to actually be kind on here. Thank you so much. Some of the people on here are flat out bullies with nothing better to do. I did notice a lot of memebers are only like 13-14 I just don't think this attitude most have is appropriate for kids trying to learn about their new life long friends, or adults for that matter. I am extremely upset with this site right now.I am really sorry to hear you have decided to do this. I hope you reconsider. Like with everything there is more then one "right" way to take care of our tortoises. We are also very emotional, when it comes to the tortoises and turtles and add in how hard it is to convey feelings in here with just the use of the written word, it just adds up to things not coming off like we would like them to or mean them to. Think of it as any other group, there are always folks who you just don't like or can't deal with. Look for the ones who make you feel welcome and freely offer advise in a way you can take it... just as you should be giving advise the same way. I too get frustrated in here at times with attitudes. At those times I take a short break or stay away from threads/certain people. This might work for you, too.