Gender ID Hermann

[soundwave]

Hi,

Could I get double check on the gender ID?

 

[elegans]

How big is the animal in the picture? If it is over 4" it is almost certainly a female. Very pretty by the way. Douglas

 

[soundwave]

here are larger images

 

[elegans]

I would say female for sure, now seeing the larger images. Douglas

 

[soundwave]

Hi Douglas,

Rumble is 5 1/2 inches.

Thanks for the compliment. She is a beauty

 

[agiletorts]

It looks like female eastern hermann's to me. She's beautiful!

 

[Crazy1]

She is a beautiful little tort. Well not so little at 5 1/2 inches. My vote is a female.

 

[HermanniChris]

Looks like a female, and Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis.

 

[soundwave]

Looks like a female, and Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis.

Hi Chris,

Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis is a new term for me. Does it make her different from a Eastern or Western?

Thanks

 

[HermanniChris]

Yes it is different. It is a somewhat newly recognized subspecies of the Hermann's tortoise known as the "Dalmatian Tortoise." Care is the same but is seen as kind of an "in-between" the eastern and western. It known to stay smaller than the eastern but not as small as the western. It is more on the abundant side like the eastern and is not so rare like the western. Here is a thread where Dan descirbes the difference: http://www.shelledwarriors.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3019

and if you haven't seen it already here is a link to a thread I created:
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/western-hermanns-vs-eastern-hermanns-t-219.html

With my animals, my hercegovinensis are smaller than my easterns but are close in size to a few, and are definitely larger than my westerns.
-Chris

 

[soundwave]

Yes it is different. It is a somewhat newly recognized subspecies of the Hermann's tortoise known as the "Dalmatian Tortoise." Care is the same but is seen as kind of an "in-between" the eastern and western. It known to stay smaller than the eastern but not as small as the western. It is more on the abundant side like the eastern and is not so rare like the western. Here is a thread where Dan descirbes the difference: http://www.shelledwarriors.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3019

and if you haven't seen it already here is a link to a thread I created:
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/western-hermanns-vs-eastern-hermanns-t-219.html

With my animals, my hercegovinensis are smaller than my easterns but are close in size to a few, and are definitely larger than my westerns.
-Chris

Hi Chris,

what Hermman speices do you think my other Hermman is?

thanks for your help

 

[HermanniChris]

I'd need to see a plastron shot.

 

[soundwave]

I'd need to see a plastron shot.

Hi Chris,

I thank you for your help.

I posted some pics of Hermann #2 plastron shot on different link.

This guy has been try to mount the Dalmation Hermann. Is there any issues with this activity?