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Jay Bagley

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You are the worst offender out there. I contacted you directly and you never responded. I see you found the time to reply to this thread tho.

Your forum is DANGEROUS. People who visit ARE NOT going to take weeks to read 1000's of entries and figure out who knows what they are talking about. So, every incorrect piece of advice could actually KILL someone's pet. I spent several hours looking around that forum before joining. The average visitor will not. Are you comfortable with being responsible for spreading that kind of misinformation? And the results?

If you're serious about being the premier forum for tortoises, you need to step up your game a lot. As it is, your just a social club for people who think they know what they are talking about. You guys come up first in a google search for tortoise forums. To me, that puts the onus on you to be sure you control your threads and make sure people aren't spreading opinion as fact. You aren't currently doing that. As long as you allow the public at your posts without a warning, you are doing more harm than good. I sincerely believe this, I'm not just giving you guys a hard time for yucks.
I meant to hit the reply button, I accidentally hit the like button. I think it went away, I hope. Anyways I said it before and I'll say it again. TROLL. And on a side note, Yvonne is awesome. This is one meatball that I hope rolls off the plate soon.
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Newcomers need to respect the forum they join to earn respect. We all say things inaccurately from time to time. What matters is being willing to learn and being willing to educate. Putting everyone else's nose out of joint does not help your, or anyone else's for that matter, cause.

Learn how to interact and influence and may be, just maybe, people might start to listen.

At the moment you sound like a childish keyboard warrior. A new account and a less agepressive, more reasoned argument might do wonders

#GROWUP

PS If I said that on the topic-unrelated forum where I am a moderator I would have to ban myself. Sorry mods!

SO, this is a social club then? Not a place to get clear information from people who can back up what they are telling you? That's ok. All I'm saying is TELL PEOPLE THAT. When I did a google search on tortoise forums. yours is at the top. To me, that puts a lot of responsibility on you to be accurate or warn people. Read thru some posts objectively. EVERYONE sounds like an expert. This forum should be private and new members warned if you want to run it this way.
 

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This is what I mean. Who are you that I should listen to you over a man that teaches biology to future MD's and Vets? But, let's say I do listen to you. How do you suggest I force him to stay up all winter? You are applying a general principle to a unique situation. He's not going torpid. He chooses not to eat and be warm. Those options are available to him. I kept that room at 80 ambient and 95 on his rock ALL WINTER. He can go into the warm room anytime he wants. I dragged him back in there once. Should I do that all winter? And why did he awake from this "torture" healthy enough to bring himself outside and start eating when he was ready? He had been given the same chance for two full weeks prior to him coming out. You don't know. Right?

That's the problem with this forum. Your message above is angry and general. It's your OPINION. We've all been to school and know simple biology. Try referencing something I can verify. Otherwise, you're just flapping your gums. And that is DANGEROUS.

AND NEWCOMERS TO THIS FORUM DESERVE TO BE WARNED ABOUT THE GENERAL LACK OF VERIFIABLE "KNOWLEDGE".

#NEWCOMMER
Woah! I’m not one to judge or be rude but please calm down! Everyone is just trying to help. If you’ve talked to an “expert” than why are you here asking questions! If you don’t want answers, why ask? These people don’t deserve such disrespect.
 

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Woah! I’m not one to judge or be rude but please calm down! Everyone is just trying to help. If you’ve talked to an “expert” than why are you here asking questions! If you don’t want answers, why ask? These people don’t deserve such disrespect.

Agreed, why are you here if you are so confident in your professors work? Not saying we don’t want you, but do NOT disrespect any of the knowledgable people here. If you have nothing nice or intelligent to say don’t say it. Thanks!
 

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SO, this is a social club then? Not a place to get clear information from people who can back up what they are telling you? That's ok. All I'm saying is TELL PEOPLE THAT. When I did a google search on tortoise forums. yours is at the top. To me, that puts a lot of responsibility on you to be accurate or warn people. Read thru some posts objectively. EVERYONE sounds like an expert. This forum should be private and new members warned if you want to run it this way.

Well Meatball I did a Google search on sulcatas hibernating and every page that pops up supports what everyone in this forum is trying to tell you?
 

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Ok, you seriously need to GROW UP! That’s coming from an 11 year old! I do not like to be rude but the way your treating all of these people is so rude I can’t stand it! Please can we worry about the real issue? Your tort. If you want help (I don’t even know if you do any more) then why are you so disrespectful to the people who are just trying to help?
 

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SO, this is a social club then? Not a place to get clear information from people who can back up what they are telling you? That's ok. All I'm saying is TELL PEOPLE THAT. When I did a google search on tortoise forums. yours is at the top. To me, that puts a lot of responsibility on you to be accurate or warn people. Read thru some posts objectively. EVERYONE sounds like an expert. This forum should be private and new members warned if you want to run it this way.
Can we please see a pic of your tortoise? We just want to help Meatball.
 

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Well at least you are mouthing off in your own thread.

When you are ready to bring reasoned and reasonable argument to discussion then I’ll bother to engage with you further

To use your caps

ANGRY CAPS ALWAYS FAIL.

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Not to be rube but the hibernation or whatever it is is very uncommon. These people are trying their best to help but they probably have never heard of a sulcata that hibernates. Don’t get me wrong I am absolutely no expert but is it possible the people that you got him from thought he was supposed to hibernate and didn’t have much heat for him or didn’t feed him much during the winter, maybe it’s possible he’s continuing that or something? Please tell me if I’m wrong. I know I don’t know much about torts and don’t even know if that’s possible. Maybe some pics of him would help???

Wow, a nice person that really wants to help.Thank you very much.

You are absolutely right. The "idiotic expert" I went to told me it's known phenomenon for reptiles that don't normally hibernate, sorry, Brumate, do so in a cold environment. Meatball is 15 years old and has been doing it for 13 of those. I would literally have to force him to stay awake all winter. What's being missed here is I continued to offer him hay, fruit, and water all winter because I didn't know what I was doing. Better safe than sorry. He never touched it. It was put where he was, not in his room. Short of force-feeding, I don't get what these EXPERTS think I can do about it.

I'm not really even interested in the forum at this point. It's not really a place to learn, just gab. I just wanna make sure the next poor sap that comes to the forum, looking for answers, knows most of these people don't know what they are talking about. Those that do are a clicky bunch and of no use to newcomers. This forum is on the internet and open for PUBLIC viewing. Apparently, the members of this forum don't care. I do.
 
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