Global warming and the 'doomsday' glacier

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Thank you. You got my point. Play our part.
I think we can agree to do lots better on recycling, energy conservation, reasonable protection policies on our environment, less waste, less energy consumption, less mandates & more innovation. But what is not
a solution is one-size fits all because living rural is different from suburbs is different from urban cities.

BTW, high winds over 100 mph in Boulder County, Colo. today caused power lines to break & started brush fires turning quickly into large fires & burning down homes & has already been labeled by CNN, the Boston Globe & others as due to "climate change." Nothing could be further from the truth. I moved to Denver in 1973 & to Boulder in 1980. Just moved out of state this year. It would be highly unusual to not have 80 mph winds or better any time of the yr. & anywhere along the Eastern Slope & I've seen 125-150 mph wind days several times in those yrs. So I hope my friends in Superior & Louisville are safe & their homes didn't burn down, but this was in no way due to climate change.
 

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There is nothing wrong with our system guys, it must be exactly what "they" wanted....after all, it's what they built!

I truly hope they enjoy the world they've made....... I guess it's what they wanted.

Personally, I think they're nuts but it's their turn now.........

I don't stress it anymore, I'm in the KMA club!
 

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Kick Your As* club? I believe in global warming...I don't know who the "they" are...but there is a lot wrong with our system...we all created it with our excess. Pay attention to the plight of the Polar Bears...they will be threatened in my lifetime and I'm old...that's my opinion and I'm stickin to it...
 

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BTW, high winds over 100 mph in Boulder County, Colo. today caused power lines to break & started brush fires turning quickly into large fires & burning down homes & has already been labeled by CNN, the Boston Globe & others as due to "climate change." Nothing could be further from the truth. I moved to Denver in 1973 & to Boulder in 1980. Just moved out of state this year. It would be highly unusual to not have 80 mph winds or better any time of the yr. & anywhere along the Eastern Slope & I've seen 125-150 mph wind days several times in those yrs. So I hope my friends in Superior & Louisville are safe & their homes didn't burn down, but this was in no way due to climate change.
High wind in the mountains is not unusual. No reporting has said otherwise.

It is the perfect storm of drought, autumn heat, fire, and 115 mph winds that is unique this year. All the data matters:
 

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Updating flood map science:

Re*ltor.com actually has a great flood utility on its listing pages...search for your U.S. address, scroll down to the Neighborhood map utility, then select the Flood overlay to get a 30-year projection on the ground where you are.
 

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Thank you. You got my point. Play our part.
I totally agree with you even though, I actually believe that we can't stop what's happening. That would take the whole world to change their ways right now. They're not going to and they can't really. How would we get products home from the grocery store freshly if there wasn't packaging? If we use paper bags like in a bulk store we still have to cut down trees to do that. A factory has to make them into paper. Then they have to arrive to the store. But I do think we as an individual should try to recycle as much as we can out of respect for the Lord's earth?
 

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I totally agree with you even though, I actually believe that we can't stop what's happening. That would take the whole world to change their ways right now. They're not going to and they can't really. How would we get products home from the grocery store freshly if there wasn't packaging? If we use paper bags like in a bulk store we still have to cut down trees to do that. A factory has to make them into paper. Then they have to arrive to the store. But I do think we as an individual should try to recycle as much as we can out of respect for the Lord's earth?
Just that one single item you mentioned..
Why aren't we only using recycling paper bags by now?
 

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I totally agree with you even though, I actually believe that we can't stop what's happening. That would take the whole world to change their ways right now. They're not going to and they can't really. How would we get products home from the grocery store freshly if there wasn't packaging? If we use paper bags like in a bulk store we still have to cut down trees to do that. A factory has to make them into paper. Then they have to arrive to the store. But I do think we as an individual should try to recycle as much as we can out of respect for the Lord's earth?
In the UK, we take our own bags. Plastic bags used to be free, now they charge, so 'voila', everyone brings their own.
But I see your point.
 

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There is nothing wrong with our system guys, it must be exactly what "they" wanted....after all, it's what they built!

I truly hope they enjoy the world they've made....... I guess it's what they wanted.

Personally, I think they're nuts but it's their turn now.........

I don't stress it anymore, I'm in the KMA club!
What's the KMA club spelled out??
 

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In the UK, we take our own bags. Plastic bags used to be free, now they charge, so 'voila', everyone brings their own.
But I see your point.
It's really hard to keep bulk flours, grains, seeds etc fresh if it's in a bulk storage situation in a store. Especially when people are allowed to shovel out their own purchase. You can also make shopping bags out of t shirts that can be thrown in the wash. That's a favorite of mine. I've shopped in Mother Earth stores and they have large cans full of really good stuff but storing food that way invites a bug called pantry pests and no thanks. The better the food the more likely. That's all I mean by it. I totally know that our planet is warming. Where I live is so different than it was when I was a child. I remember having snow a couple of a feet deep to play in for days. Now if it snows it's usually melted by noon. So I can't change the world but I can change me. That's all I can do.
 

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In the UK, we take our own bags. Plastic bags used to be free, now they charge, so 'voila', everyone brings their own.
But I see your point.
We do that here too. We (my family) were re-using our own bags long before these laws though. It just makes sense. I don't use straws in restaurants. Nobody releases balloons on my watch. I'm a SCUBA diver, so balloons and plastic bags are primary concerns because of the impact they have on marine life.

Its all the little things from all the little people that can add up to make a difference. How much difference will our efforts make? I sure don't know that answer, but I feel good about how I live my life.
 

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Updating flood map science:

Re*ltor.com actually has a great flood utility on its listing pages...search for your U.S. address, scroll down to the Neighborhood map utility, then select the Flood overlay to get a 30-year projection on the ground where you are.
I don't need to do that as my property flooded just this year and there are so many dead rats under my house the whole house smells of decomposition. They seem to all be gone...
 

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High wind in the mountains is not unusual. No reporting has said otherwise.

It is the perfect storm of drought, autumn heat, fire, and 115 mph winds that is unique this year. All the data matters:

High wind in the mountains is not unusual. No reporting has said otherwise.

It is the perfect storm of drought, autumn heat, fire, and 115 mph winds that is unique this year. All the data matters:

High wind in the mountains is not unusual. No reporting has said otherwise.

It is the perfect storm of drought, autumn heat, fire, and 115 mph winds that is unique this year. All the data matters:
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Updating flood map science:

Re*ltor.com actually has a great flood utility on its listing pages...search for your U.S. address, scroll down to the Neighborhood map uIttility, then select the Flood overlay to get a 30-year projection on the ground where you are.
Boulder had its 1000 yr flood in the fall of 2013. It went on for a couple of weeks. The creek in a subdivision near us that overflowed has been completely redug & redirected. And a newscaster no longe The town of Lyons is rebuilt. The hueys stopped flying over my house dropping off the stranded or flooded, and there has been no major flooding since.

I am grateful for everything I have. I have lived thru tornados, floods, blizzards, & just about everything but a major hurricane (wind but not the tropical rain). I don't see every weather event as being "climate change" just because a "journalist" says they've always lived in an area they claim was never before
 

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I believe in anthropogenic climate change and that mankind is consuming and polluting the Earth as if we want to render the planet unlivable for most species (or at least couldn't care less if that happens), but here on TFO, I'd prefer to talk about turtles and tortoises.

Jamie
 

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I believe in anthropogenic climate change and that mankind is consuming and polluting the Earth as if we want to render the planet unlivable for most species (or at least couldn't care less if that happens), but here on TFO, I'd prefer to talk about turtles and tortoises.

Jamie
Hey Jamie
am I the only person to know you are new moderator??? So happy moderating...lol
 

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Hey Jamie
am I the only person to know you are new moderator??? So happy moderating...lol
Thanks, although I didn't mean that post to be from a moderating standpoint.

My experience with TFO had been that it's a tremendously civil community with occasional spammers trying to join in with the informative discourse unseen to sell their snake oil... to that end my hope and goal is to mostly throw spammers (and their weird threads) back over the fence and enjoy the talk about turtles and tortoises.

J
 

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Thanks, although I didn't mean that post to be from a moderating standpoint.

My experience with TFO had been that it's a tremendously civil community with occasional spammers trying to join in with the informative discourse unseen to sell their snake oil... to that end my hope and goal is to mostly throw spammers (and their weird threads) back over the fence and enjoy the talk about turtles and tortoises.

J
I didn't take it from a moderating point...I just noticed the sign on your avatar...you are also a good choice...
 

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I'd prefer to talk about turtles and tortoises.

talking about turtles and tortoises and getting on the subject of climate seems inevitable ,at least to me .............i would think it's actually a required understanding ........ if i didn't keep them or have an interest in them i would have zero interest in the climate , they are some of the first animals on earth that will be affected ..... lots of members keep their turtles and tortoises outside 24/7/365 .......
 

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i go to colorado a lot , my daughter lives there ......specifically the boulder area ..... the housing/population growth shocks me every time i go back .... there was no "perfect storm" , if this didn't involve 1000 homes in the populated area it did , which was never this populated until recently , this fire wouldn't be national news , it'll end up that it burnt 6 thousand acres .....in 1919 5 million acres burned , in 1825 3 million acres burned , in kansas last month 165 thousand acres burnt , i never seen it on the news ..... about half the the worst wildfires in north american history happened before 1900 ......is it possible that putting wildfires out makes for more and worse future wildfires ? i would tend to think it might , just as containing the mississipi river to prevent flooding makes for worse national news worthy flooding ........

everything cannot be a self made disaster , you lose credibility , you hurt your cause , at least with folks like me .......new york new jersey recently made the news for the recent rainfall/flooding deaths , claimed to be a climate change event , new jersey's record rainfall was 14.8 inches in 1939 , new york's 14.1 inches 1942 ......... if anything is to fault for new york cities problem it's all the concrete not the 7 inches of rain they got .... ....jmo
 

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i go to colorado a lot , my daughter lives there ......specifically the boulder area ..... the housing/population growth shocks me every time i go back .... there was no "perfect storm" , if this didn't involve 1000 homes in the populated area it did , which was never this populated until recently , this fire wouldn't be national news , it'll end up that it burnt 6 thousand acres .....in 1919 5 million acres burned , in 1825 3 million acres burned , in kansas last month 165 thousand acres burnt , i never seen it on the news ..... about half the the worst wildfires in north american history happened before 1900 ......is it possible that putting wildfires out makes for more and worse future wildfires ? i would tend to think it might , just as containing the mississipi river to prevent flooding makes for worse national news worthy flooding ........

everything cannot be a self made disaster , you lose credibility , you hurt your cause , at least with folks like me .......new york new jersey recently made the news for the recent rainfall/flooding deaths , claimed to be a climate change event , new jersey's record rainfall was 14.8 inches in 1939 , new york's 14.1 inches 1942 ......... if anything is to fault for new york cities problem it's all the concrete not the 7 inches of rain they got .... ....jmo
Its almost like they are trying to sensationalize things and make it seem worse than it really is. As if they are exaggerating and making stuff up to push an agenda or further a narrative... Hmmm...
 
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