Greek tortoise swollen eyelids

[TammyJ]

That's not what I said. If you want to discuss husbandry practices - open a new thread. We are open for discussion.

Yes we are open for discussion, and hopefully it will be in English.

 

[magdalenazbinden]

Hey
So my vet prescribed baytril injections for a week. As with any other medication this one too seems to be controversial. So im really confused now. I will talk to the vet later today once more and discuss the blood results but i am trying to get an appointment with another one... Just to confirm the treatment accuracy. I will keep you posted

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Hey
So my vet prescribed baytril injections for a week. As with any other medication this one too seems to be controversial. So im really confused now. I will talk to the vet later today once more and discuss the blood results but i am trying to get an appointment with another one... Just to confirm the treatment accuracy. I will keep you posted

Hello!
Why did he prescribe antibiotics? Baytril had adverse side effects and without tests for specific infection should not be used in the first place. Fortaz is a safer alternative for treating unknown bacterial infections (when vet doesn't want to do expensive tests but suspect there is one).

 

[magdalenazbinden]

Hello!
Why did he prescribe antibiotics? Baytril had adverse side effects and without tests for specific infection should not be used in the first place. Fortaz is a safer alternative for treating unknown bacterial infections (when vet doesn't want to do expensive tests but suspect there is one).

Hey
One liver value is high and one low. This is the reason. She is supposed to call me later today ans explain it. Im going to the third and the last vet on wednesday. I will be anyway out of options.

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Hey
One liver value is high and one low. This is the reason. She is supposed to call me later today ans explain it. Im going to the third and the last vet on wednesday. I will be anyway out of options.

Okay, please keep us updated!

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Nie napisałeś czym karmisz swojego żółwia, żeby ludzie mogli doradzić. Warzywa, a tym bardziej jarmuż, na pewno nie powinny być spożywane. Żółw ma za małe terrarium, wpływasz na jego wynik krwi. W przypadku złego wyniku krwi lub wątroby zaleca się spokój, odpowiednią dietę, kąpiele i przebywanie na zewnątrz 24/7 w bezpiecznym miejscu. Miałeś złe podłoże dla swojego żółwia, czy wymieniłeś podłoże na glinę i ziemię ogrodową?

@lucckaa Please, could you translate your posts in English, please? Most users on the forum are English-speaking.

What is wrong about kale (when it's fed in moderation)?

OP is busy upgrading the enclosure - watch this thread for updates.

And I still ask you to make a post in Introductions sections and tell more about yourself and your tortoises. Your advice differs from forum's guides and I see this as a learning opportunity, not a reason for debates.

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

@lucckaa Please, could you translate your posts in English, please? Most users on the forum are English-speaking.

What is wrong about kale (when it's fed in moderation)?

OP is busy upgrading the enclosure - watch this thread for updates.

And I still ask you to make a post in Introductions sections and tell more about yourself and your tortoises. Your advice differs from forum's guides and I see this as a learning opportunity, not a reason for debates.

Is there a way you are translating on here or do you speak polish? I’d be curious what they’re saying

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Is there a way you are translating on here or do you speak polish? I’d be curious what they’re saying

Google Translate to the rescue )

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

Google Translate to the rescue )

lol fair enough, I can’t be bothered to keep copying and pastingbut if it’s easier for this person in their own threads, I’m happy doing so

 

[Fluffy]

lol fair enough, I can’t be bothered to keep copying and pastingbut if it’s easier for this person in their own threads, I’m happy doing so

Google translate has a "translate whole page" feature. Hit it once and everything is translated.

 

[Yvonne G]

I moved the Polish posts to the 'To Be Deleted' section and closed the thead.

From now on, English only,please.

 

[magdalenazbinden]

Hello Everyone !
So, the temporary terrarium was finished this week and Frankling moved in. It is temporary but still million times better than what he had before. I will be reading again your comments about the lamp and food I should use so that I can improve it even more.

Vet:
I went to the third vet and he actually has a clue. I could see it from how he handles Franklin and what he already knows. He said:
1. No vitamin A injections
2. No Baytril injections
3. He rarely does blood check because of trauma caused by it (Franklin had it done anyway but exactly because of this trauma the results make no sense)

What we are doing now:
1. Twice a day a bath in CCF formula
2. He is fed by the vet 1-2 / week (food: critical care)

How Franklin is doing:
He is still hiding, has swollen eyelids and doesnt want to eat by himself. When in water, he is active and wants to escape but he IS active and thats good. His eyes (or rather eyelids) are still light sensitive especially after the bath (something I noticed yesterday). There is a bit of water accumulated under his skin (between the head and the legs) and this is sth I need to observe. The vet said it could be that he simply needs to relieve himself or could be the kidneys. IF it stays as it is now, we are going to the vet on Thursday and he might get a medication that is supposed to help the kidneys and kind of 'release' too much water from his body. Otherwise he said it takes time for tortoises to get better after living in shitty conditions for years. So, we will see.
Have a wonderful evening

 

[The_Four_Toed_Edward]

Could you send a picture of the accumulated fluid?

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

Hello Everyone !
So, the temporary terrarium was finished this week and Frankling moved in. It is temporary but still million times better than what he had before. I will be reading again your comments about the lamp and food I should use so that I can improve it even more.

Vet:
I went to the third vet and he actually has a clue. I could see it from how he handles Franklin and what he already knows. He said:
1. No vitamin A injections
2. No Baytril injections
3. He rarely does blood check because of trauma caused by it (Franklin had it done anyway but exactly because of this trauma the results make no sense)

What we are doing now:
1. Twice a day a bath in CCF formula
2. He is fed by the vet 1-2 / week (food: critical care)

How Franklin is doing:
He is still hiding, has swollen eyelids and doesnt want to eat by himself. When in water, he is active and wants to escape but he IS active and thats good. His eyes (or rather eyelids) are still light sensitive especially after the bath (something I noticed yesterday). There is a bit of water accumulated under his skin (between the head and the legs) and this is sth I need to observe. The vet said it could be that he simply needs to relieve himself or could be the kidneys. IF it stays as it is now, we are going to the vet on Thursday and he might get a medication that is supposed to help the kidneys and kind of 'release' too much water from his body. Otherwise he said it takes time for tortoises to get better after living in shitty conditions for years. So, we will see.
Have a wonderful evening

Thank you for the update! I hope Franklin continues to improve for you, definitely keep us in the loop a photo of the fluid build up you’re on about would be good if you can

 

[magdalenazbinden]

It is sth one can feel more rather than see it. I also noticed that water irritates his eyes. The temperature is around 28 degrees as recommended by the vet

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

It doesn’t look horrendous but I’d definitely keep an eye

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

It is sth one can feel more rather than see it. I also noticed that water irritates his eyes. The temperature is around 28 degrees as recommended by the vet

Is water highly chlorinated or conditioned in your area? You may switch to filtered or bottled drinking water for bathing for a week and check if there is an improvement.

 

[magdalenazbinden]

Hello everyone
I didnt write earlier because I wanted to observe Franklin for a little bit.
Last week on Sunday I gave him a bath and he was still hiding and had swollen eyelids. That was about 12:00 pm. One hour later I checked how he is doing and the eyelids were not swollen anymore and he was eating and running around in terrarium. He's been like that since then His eyelids are not perfect but he is a different tortoise now he wants to explore and is hungry. It is really beautiful to watch. I wanted to ask you if anyone here has a russian tort with healthy eye lids and could share a picture? I trust you more than what I can find elsewhere.
I also wanted to thank you. If you hadn't 'pushed' me to change his living arrangements and also shared your experience and opinion, Franklin wouldnt be healthier now. This change had probably the biggest impact on his recovery.

 

[The_Four_Toed_Edward]

This is my adult male. He has a overgrown beak in this photo, but as far as I know his eyes are healthy here:

 

[magdalenazbinden]

This is my adult male. He has a overgrown beak in this photo, but as far as I know his eyes are healthy here:

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Thank you very much he is beautiful!
Franklin's eyelids are almost the same so I think its getting better and better.