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kekek

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Hello everybody ...
Could you please tell me what their gender is

(1)
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(2)
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both of them 7-8 inch
thank you :)
 

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thank you mattgrizzlybear,

so they are a couple, I'll adopt both of them :)
 

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2.a male

But I'm not convinced 1.is a female. "To me" I still think it could go either way..

This is IMO.

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Another vote for female male.


0.1.0 Dachshund
0.0.1 Redfoot
1.0.0 Greek
 

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I see two males.

Yeah, the tail is short on the first one, but the supracaudal scute is all male.
 

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It curves inward to protect the tail when copulating and it takes on a more horizontal shape. In this picture, you can see on this male that the supracaudal fits well inside a rectangle shape.

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For a female this size, I would expect the supracaudal to have extended further outwards and come to a point like you see in this adult female.

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It's been my experience with most tortoises that the anal scutes are some of last sex-indicators to develop, and can sometimes be confusing in leopards like you see in the male in my first picture. I usually start with the tail, then look at the supracaudal when things are not so obvious.

I've been wrong before...but right now I would bet on 2 males.
 
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