Help with id please.

[mchong9606]

Hello everyone! I was wondering if you could help me ID this turtle I was thinking about purchasing. Advertised as a female eastern but for some reason I think it's a hybrid. Your thoughts please and thank you!

Mike

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[Yvonne G]

No, it's not an eastern. It may be a cross between a luteola and something. A lot of gulf coast box turtles look like that, but then they are quite a bit bigger that this one is.

 

[lisa127]

Maybe an eastern/three toed cross?

 

[Millerlite]

Looks eastern to me, young one, few years if that. It's possible it's a hybrid, as it gets older it will get easier to determine. Good looking little girl tho.

 

[mchong9606]

Thank you. I wasn't sure what it was about her. Just didn't look right to me.

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[diaboliqueturtle]

You're in Toronto, right? I saw that ad and thought about contacting them... I don't think it's an Eastern either, the head really looks like an ornate...

 

[Millerlite]

It's def an off shape one, and the plastron color is weird cuz that color more resembles a gulf coast or even three toed. The head also looks like a three toed. If it was a hybrid probably with a three toed. Then again it can just be angles and or he is underweight a tad and a little small for his age. Looks alert tho.

 

[diaboliqueturtle]

The poster is also selling an adult golf coast and it turns out my Eastern's are from them too...

 

[mchong9606]

The poster is also selling an adult golf coast and it turns out my Eastern's are from them too...

Yes from Toronto and hello!

 

[diaboliqueturtle]

Whatever it is, it sure is pretty. Did you get her?

 

[yagyujubei]

I think it's a young eastern.

 

[diamondbp]

That is a young eastern , looking female. Eastern colorations can vary tremendously from state to state, especially in the young. It's not even close to an ornate or pure gulf coast. I would say its either pure eastern or an eastern with a hint of 3toed genetics. Either way its still young and they can look dramatically different between 2-5 years from when they are hatchlings. In two years it will be much easier to tell.

 

[mchong9606]

Well I thank you all for your input. She's still available so I might go have at look. I just wasn't interested in a hybrid, even though she is pretty. Right now I have a separated male and female ebt, but I would like another female just so he leaves her alone sometimes! I wouldn't try to mate her right now, she looks too young plus I would have a quarantine period as well. If anyone else wants to chime in, please do. Seems there's still a split decision on hybrid/gulf coast/ebt/3toe!

 

[lisa127]

Personally, I do not see any gulf coast myself. I agree with the above poster....I see eastern and maybe some three toed. But no gulf coast. My boxie Peanut is a hybrid of mostly three toed with possible gulf coast in the bloodlines somewhere.