kurttheturt

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Hello everyone! This is my first post on this forum so excuse me if I make any mistakes, I’m also on mobile.

Basically to explain this post:
Sometimes I feel like a really terrible tortoise owner even though I do my research I feel like I’m not giving him a good enough quality of life.

For background information:
I have an around 2 year old Russian tortoise. I’ve had him for a year now, and for the first half of owning him he was indoors in an approximately 12 gallon tank. My dad and I then built him an outdoor enclosure but it isn’t much bigger at 2x4 in size, and I have plans to build a larger one but I don’t know if I want it inside or outside, I’ll explain more later on why. I have always provided him with fresh water and food every day or every other day, and I dust his food with calcium powder and soak him once a month as well as take him out to explore the backyard. He doesn’t have any pyramiding from what I can tell. I use a mix of coco fiber and cypress mulch for his substrate. I live in Los Angeles, California so the weather is generally on the mild side.

Concerns:
I know that the enclosure is too small and I am going to build a larger one but I don’t really have space in my house for the recommended 4x8 size, and I am worried to put him outside especially as winter is coming up and I’m not the best at carpentry or wiring for outdoor lamps and stuff, and I haven’t hibernated him before and am frankly a bit scared to do so in fear of doing it wrong. Does anyone have any tips for this? Are there any good pre built tortoise tables or easy to make setups that work for a male Russian that you guys could recommend? Another concern of mine is that when I let him out to wander, he always tries to eat rocks and pebbles. I’ve looked it up and it said it may be due to calcium deficiency but I always make sure I give him calcium in the form of powder and cuttlefish bone, so what could be the cause of this? Another concern is that I’m not feeding him a wide enough variety of foods. I mainly feed him spring mix as I don’t really have access to a home garden but I’ve been trying to research safe things I can feed him from around my neighborhood. I do feed him hibiscus when the flowers bloom though.

Questions:
How often should I be feeding him? I generally feed him every other day though sometimes I go a bit longer and he overall seems healthy, he’s a 2 year old Russian just as a reminder and he’s about 6 inches long.
Any recommendations for good enrichment activities? He’s usually shy when I pick him up for the first time in a while but he perks up after a bit. His enclosure has places for him to dig and hide and not much else, should I add a wheel or something?
Is soaking once a month okay, or should I do it more often?
What are more tips you guys have should I keep him outside? I have an enclosed backyard but there are a lot of outdoor cats that come by and I’m also worried about birds. I’m just overall scared of housing him outside because of nature and that I’ll make a mistake somewhere along the lines.
Really, why does he keep trying to eat pebbles? It’s all he does!


I think that’s all for now, I hope you guys don’t see me as a terrible and cruel tortoise owner because I’m genuinely trying my best with what resources I have and I can provide more for him but I’ve been at a loss of how to do so and I should’ve posted here sooner. I genuinely love my tortoise and I did do research before I got him but as he’s gotten bigger I’m needing to adapt some more. Please try to be nice in the replies if possible… thank you for taking the time to read my post and I look forward to seeing the responses I get! Attached is a photo of Kurtis. Would someone please let me know if his scutes look healthy? If there’s any pyramiding his shell has generally looked this way since I got him, and he was already around a year and a half when I did. IMG_1872.jpeg
 

Alex and the Redfoot

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Hello and welcome!
Your intent to provide him a better life is more important than past mistakes. That's what makes you a good tortoise owner.

If you haven't seen this post already, I recommend to read it carefully (and Temperate species care sheet and Tom's Brumation Thread linked at the bottom of that post):
While some things can be done differently, these care sheets are very good baselines and reference guides.

His shell has some bumps and shape hints there was some UVB/exercise/calcium deficiency in the past. As you didn't mention him dragging his body on the ground and hind legs problems - condition is not severe.

1. Most tortoise tables and enclosures you can get "off the shelf" aren't suitable or overly expensive. So many keepers resort to DIY: retrofitting IKEA bookcases, using raised garden beds for enclosure base or building from scratch out of expanded PVC or wood. Custom built enclosures can be made in different shapes and sizes (L-shaped, double-level and so on) to perfectly fit into available room space.
2. A hamster wheel can be a good addition to tortoise enclosure. I'm not 100% sure about safety (there is a risk of flipping), but haven't seen this issue on the forum yet.
3. For the outdoor pen you can use wired chicken coops from Tractor Supply, raised garden bed and such if you don't feel yourself proficient with woodworking.
4. Eating pebbles and stones can be a calcium deficiency or just the opposite - abundance of calcium (which interferes with other microelements intake) and lack of other minerals. To mitigate this - use calcium supplement 1-2 times a week only and add complex mineral supplement (like Miner-All) once a week.
5. Hibiscus leaves are edible and better than flowers - so feed them too.
6. Soaking him once a month is fine for adult tortoises, but he is still juvenile so try to do that more often (once-twice a week).

Please, ask more questions and don't worry - we do not to blame anyone (that won't help neither keeper nor tortoise).
 

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