I am one of those people that has bought wild caught specimens in the past, including tortoises as well as other animal species.
A few times retail establishments have had what I've been looking for, the places that get their tortoises from a middle man or wholesaler.
One of the questions that I always ask is, "How long have they been in your possession?" I usually get some generic response that doesn't answer the question at all, something along the lines of, "These are long term, well established captives." Either that, or they pretend the question wasn't asked and ignore it entirely. When pressed, they oftentimes fumble for an answer which seems to be a lie or they confess that they got them 'yesterday' or a 'few days ago'.
When I questioned one retailer why they don't hold the animal until they can ensure that it is eating and seemingly healthy, the response that I got was this (cut and pasted verbatim): "As a good size retailer with a lot of animals in stock at any given time, I can't afford to be sitting on everything I get in for weeks or even months to make sure they are healthy. If I did that and factored in the extra overhead into the cost of the animal, the price would be higher and I would not be competitive. I am not a big enough name that I can mark up higher prices and still make sales. Plus if I sat on an entire shipment and one of them was sick. That entire group could get sick and I could lose all of them. This could happen after my allowable time period for credit for losses meaning I lose everything."
I'm curious on hearing what others think on this, particularly retail sellers. What obligation does a seller have to ensure that an animal is healthy before selling it and what is a reasonable amount of time to hold it for observation before attempting to sell it? And in those cases where animals are advertised as healthy, eating, long term captives; but they're put up for sale the day after arrival, is it false advertising for the retailers do make those claims, particularly the 'long term captive' claim when they're really not sure how long the animal has been in captivity?
A few times retail establishments have had what I've been looking for, the places that get their tortoises from a middle man or wholesaler.
One of the questions that I always ask is, "How long have they been in your possession?" I usually get some generic response that doesn't answer the question at all, something along the lines of, "These are long term, well established captives." Either that, or they pretend the question wasn't asked and ignore it entirely. When pressed, they oftentimes fumble for an answer which seems to be a lie or they confess that they got them 'yesterday' or a 'few days ago'.
When I questioned one retailer why they don't hold the animal until they can ensure that it is eating and seemingly healthy, the response that I got was this (cut and pasted verbatim): "As a good size retailer with a lot of animals in stock at any given time, I can't afford to be sitting on everything I get in for weeks or even months to make sure they are healthy. If I did that and factored in the extra overhead into the cost of the animal, the price would be higher and I would not be competitive. I am not a big enough name that I can mark up higher prices and still make sales. Plus if I sat on an entire shipment and one of them was sick. That entire group could get sick and I could lose all of them. This could happen after my allowable time period for credit for losses meaning I lose everything."
I'm curious on hearing what others think on this, particularly retail sellers. What obligation does a seller have to ensure that an animal is healthy before selling it and what is a reasonable amount of time to hold it for observation before attempting to sell it? And in those cases where animals are advertised as healthy, eating, long term captives; but they're put up for sale the day after arrival, is it false advertising for the retailers do make those claims, particularly the 'long term captive' claim when they're really not sure how long the animal has been in captivity?