Male or Female Hermann's Tortoise

[Dave Guderian]

Hi All-

Newbie here to the forum (long time lurker though)

I need some help identifying my Eastern Hermann's as male or female. I got them in August 2015 as hatchlings so they are roughly about a year and a half old. I noticed the plastron is pretty concave (makes me think male) but the tail is shorter (which makes me think female). My other tort I got at the same time is clearly male, but I just cant seem to figure this one out.

Any help is much appreciated!

 

[Yvonne G]

Both pictures look female to me. Let's get @HermanniChris 's opinion

 

[Dave Guderian]

Thank you!

HermanniChris, would welcome your input as well. Know you are an expert with Hermann's. I'm attaching the pic of my male as well for comparison.

 

[HermanniChris]

Honestly this is a tough one because the tail of this tortoise is unfortunately bent upward which gives the illusion it could be female. However, the anal scutes are all male. Can you post a photo from above so I can see the shape of the carapace?

 

[Dave Guderian]

Thanks so much for the feedback. I'm attaching a few more pics. I noticed after I took them they are kind of close up, so let me know if you need me to retake tomorrow.

Again, I really appreciate the feedback!

 

[HermanniChris]

No problem.

That tortoise's shape and featured all point to male. These bent tails in males are common, especially for Hermann's since their tails are so huge in relation to their bodies.

 

[Dave Guderian]

Thanks so much.... looks like I will need to add some females to my group!