i had thought i posted this here but for some reason i must have forgot to here is a necropsy report so you can see how invasive and bad this can be. note the "happy hides" watermarks, we are happy hides rescue and we did watermark this because we have tons of time and money involved and are working on a study of all this. just wanted to clarify that. if you have questions please do ask i will do the best i can to answer. this is just one of the necropsies, we have multiple. basically if they have had those bumps then they came back positive. it all depends on how deeply seeded internally it is that seems to determine the visible symptoms some of which you can not ever see.