Wanna be raiser of Lemon Drop tortoises
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- Aug 28, 2007
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Hey guys. Be calm. Remember these wise words:
"I am calmly resisting the fact you suck,
I am not going to insult you, cause I don't give a ****. "
Please. Just Argue. Don't try to insult or humiliate each other. Always be kind. And remember, all of this is just words typed into a keyboard.
Bye & Have a nice day,
Edit- I don't mean to insult anyone or offend anyone. I just want you all to be happy and use TFO!
Why do you allow one or two people arguing in a thread determine whether you stay or leave the Forum? Just don't read that thread. They don't comprise the whole forum, and overall, I think we're a pretty good place to be.
This always happens twice a year. Spring and Fall, you can bet on it.
I don't know why. I always figured spring time, because they are all sick and tired of the winter weathers, cabin fever. Fall because they are all mad about the winter weathers coming and getting cabin feverspring and fall because they're getting ready to go outside or inside and people argue about how it should be? i've been reading this thread but decided not to get into it i had to ask this question tho
I think because in spring everyone talks about tortoises (since the weather becomes better), and in fall it's important to keep your tort safe in the winter...I don't know why. I always figured spring time, because they are all sick and tired of the winter weathers, cabin fever. Fall because they are all mad about the winter weathers coming and getting cabin fever
Fascinating stuff, though rather confusing for those of us without the experience to be sure which side of this discussion is likely to be correct.
This is exactly the problem with people being allowed to give their opinions without any actual understanding on the topic, or experience.
My Tidgy IS our child, my wife and I can't have kids and though Tidge was an accidental rescue tortoise, she is a surrogate daughter to us, certainly not a hobby, (though I am not being totally anthropomorphic here, we keep her in tortoise conditions,not human ones)One more thing my reptilian friends aren't a hobby. They are more like my kids . I've been keeping reptilians for longer than I can remember . If I didn't have any I don't know what I would do . Is keeping dogs or cats a hobby? Just saying .
Where did Sulcata come into play for THIS thread ?
1) It is not always necessary to have experience to give advice. I have never stuck my head in an oven, but I would advise anyone not to do so. Reading can give one a lot of information, I have read a lot about pre-Etruscan pottery and believe I can talk with authority on the subject but I've never actually owned any.
Hahahaaaa. This ENTIRE thread and discussion was about raising sulcatas smoothly with or without humidity. The reason for continued discussion is that YOU are offering advice on a species that you have no experience with one way or another.
No need for any rudeness, insults, smart Alec comments, or any hostility at all, from anyone involved in this discussion. My preference would be for people lacking experience with any given species to not give specific advice about that species. Since this is a free country and everyone is allowed to express their opinion on this forum, I (we) can only advise readers when someone (you, in this case) has no experience with the species they are offering advice on.
When I start offering advice on manouria, Egyptian tortoises, spider tortoises or hinge backs, I invite you and everyone else to tell our readers that I have no experience with these species and have no idea what any given set of temperatures or humidity will produce for them. I also hope that when that day comes that you will be as polite and tolerant with me as I have been with you since you started doing this.
But wouldn't someone who had stuck their head in an oven hundreds of times, say an experienced oven repair man for example, be more qualified to give advice about the inner workings of an oven than someone who has only ever seen pictures of ovens, but never so much as even used one?May I extend an offer to you as a demonstrate good will? I would like to give you a free sulcata hatchling, properly started and hand delivered to your door for you, so that you can raise it whatever way you think is best. I only ask that you share the whole experience here on the forum. Tell us what all the enclosure temperatures, humidity, and other parameters are and give us regular updates on the growth and health of your tortoise. If the eventual adult size and temperament of the sulcata species prevents you from doing this, I will extend the offer that you can return the tortoise to me at any time you decide it is getting too big or destructive. I offer this because I and several others here know what your results will be because we have first hand experience. We just have to show you now...