Rads or mix breed?

[jonckt]

Hi, I saw this rads was selling in Malaysia, to me it looks like a mix breed. It's only 2 and a half inches big.


Jc

 

[tortadise]

That's a ploushare. Astrochelya yniphoria. Different species.

 

[jonckt]

Are u sure? That guy told me it's a radiated. And I thought it's a mix breed of rads and ploughshare.


Jc

 

[tortadise]

It could be. I'd hope it's not. But I have seen plenty of photos of angonaka that radiate like the radiated. It does kinda look like a hybrid. However the prefrontal scales on the nose and shape tells me it an angonaka. I'm definitely no expert on these guys. Sam would know

@emystiong

 

[jonckt]

Hope Sam will comment something on it. The seller was on the other side of my country, need 2 days at least by courier, scare the fellow die when it arrive here. Since he was still a baby.


Jc

 

[FLINTUS]

I thought Ploughshare x Radiata, I've seen pics of ploghshares with patterns, but not that much.

 

[glaerey]

Tats a beautiful radiata! Definitely not a angonoka. Baby angonoka looks like this.

 

[jonckt]

Wow, that was cute......


Jc

 

[FLINTUS]

I don't think it's a pure Ploughshare, but it's definitely not a pure radiata. Look at the colors before growth-the center light area-, and the lower scutes. No way those are radiata. The radiata colors being later growth would also make sense, that is how hybrids tend to turn out if you look at pardalis x carbonaria, radiata x carbonaria, hermanni x graeca etc.

 

[Yvonne G]

I vote for mixed breed....or rather, hybrid species.

 

[bouaboua]

Pretty little thing but it is weird looking one.

 

[emystiong]

Pure radiated with weird marking . If price resonable just buy . Bought and grow some with similar marking before ( thinking they may be hybrid ) but result turn out R

But at 2+inch bit young to be taped , boxed and void of water or food for a few days !!
But hey , thats how they reach our shores in the first place ( be it from Thailand or Madagascar )

 

[emystiong]

If in doubt ask for the underside , plastron picture just like Indian star and Burmese star ...... !!



Cheers
SAM

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[jonckt]

Jc

 

[Blakem]

Very cool, sorry I can't help.


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[jonckt]

I think this definitely a mix breed


Jc

 

[emystiong]

I think this definitely a mix breed View attachment 82011View attachment 82012


Jc

My guess Sulcata mix with Radiated ? Just a guess ok

 

[jonckt]

Someone post it on the net, since the picture got a Chinese website posted down there, would have the Chinese breed it.

It loses it's originality ..... Sad......


Jc

 

[FLINTUS]

My guess Sulcata mix with Radiated ? Just a guess ok

That's what I'd go with.

 

[coastal]

Radiated, very common to look like this in the Asian countries. Much larger faded scutes and very round. It's a neat look, almost non existent in the US.