Shell shape pre-determined sex?

[Kevin Kaz]

So here is the question not sure if I'm wording it right though. So I have 3 hatchlings, 2 bigger ones and 1 small one. The 2 bigger ones weigh 1.35 and 1.4 oz. The 1.4oz one (Farooqy) has a very unique scute design with an extra row. Someone on here mention good chance they would be a female. She has more of a dome shaped shell. The 1.35oz one,(Hans) is millimeters longer, doesn't have a deep dome shell like Farooqy, and his head is about 1.25-1.5 the size of Farooqy. May this be a possible early indication of which sex they are?

The one on the top right is Hans and Farooqy is on the bottom right. You can see the height of the shells and the size of their heads in this picture somewhat clearly.

 

[JoesMum]

I have never heard that one before.

Sexing is done by looking at the tail and the plastron around it, but not until a tort is much closer to adult size.

 

[Kevin Kaz]

I have never heard that one before.

Sexing is done by looking at the tail and the plastron around it, but not until a tort is much closer to adult size.

I know that when they are atleast 6" in size to look at the plastron by the tail. I was told on her about abnormal scute designs normally those torts are females. But I noticed the difference with the shell dome and head size. So I was just wondering if anyone has ever seen or heard of such a thing. Maybe the unique scute design may have lead to a higher dome shell?

 

[JoesMum]

]. Maybe the unique scute design may have lead to a higher dome shell?

That bit is possible. I have just never heard of it in relation to gender before

 

[Kevin Kaz]

That bit is possible. I have just never heard of it in relation to gender before

Yeah... But you never know what can happen haha. It probably wouldn't even cross my mind if it wasn't for the size of their head difference.

 

[J.P.]

split scutes are said t be caused by higher incubation temperatures, which is believed to produce a higher percentage of females. however, there are confirmed males with split scutes, so it really doesn't mean anything except instead of 50/50, you get slightly higher chance of getting a female.

my leaopards are nearly 8 inches but i'm still not 100% of the sex.

 

[WithLisa]

As far as I know the scutes seem to develop before the sex.
If that's true it would mean even if high incubation temperatures in the beginning are causing split scutes, if the temperature drops you could still get a high percentage of males.

By the way, I think Farooqy is a real beauty - very unusual!

 

[Kevin Kaz]

As far as I know the scutes seem to develop before the sex.
If that's true it would mean even if high incubation temperatures in the beginning are causing split scutes, if the temperature drops you could still get a high percentage of males.

By the way, I think Farooqy is a real beauty - very unusual!

Thank you!