subspecies and sex?

[gtc]

I hope someone can help me ID my greeks subspecies and sex. I tried last year but my tort was too young (however someone though it might be an ibera greek). It is 4 inches long now.

I'd also just like to say thank you to Tom, GBtortoises, will, joesmum, yvonne and all the other members that have helped me raise my greek. I have learned so much and am still learning something new all the time. I love this forum

Here are the pics:

 

[RGB]

Wow! You have a beautiful tortoise!!
Very pretty/handsome colours and you have been doing a great job raising it based upon the shell shape!

Still very young to sex. I favour male. And Iberia, golden, or an ibera/golden cross would be my best guess for subspecies.

I have a few young Greeks, but Im no expert. Just thought it would be fun to get an opinion out there!
Best of luck!

 

[BeeBee*BeeLeaves]

Wow! Your tortoise is lovely! And I agree, lots of awesome people on this forum, always willing to help. Very, very cool. I can't wait to know what your little one is, because it sure is pretty. That shell, pretty! Experts will chime in soon ... yay! : )

 

[gtc]

Thank you RGB and BeeBee and happy holidays!

 

[jackmeggers]

Again, beautiful tortoise you have. The patterning looks similar to mine which I'm also trying to determine the subspecies of. I look forward to finding out what we both have

Meg

 

[Jlant85]

Let me get in a real computer and I'll probably be able to tell you. Reading this while I commute.

 

[gtc]

Let me get in a real computer and I'll probably be able to tell you. Reading this while I commute.

Can't wait, thank you!

 

[Jlant85]

base on the pattern, he looks a lot like a T. g. antakyensis

 

[gtc]

base on the pattern, he looks a lot like a T. g. antakyensis

Thank you, that's good to know. At what age/size can my greek's sex be determined?

 

[Jlant85]

juvenile age but sometimes a later. Some will show you if you know what i mean! my hermann showed me his wee wee when i soak him... lol...

 

[gtc]

juvenile age but sometimes a later. Some will show you if you know what i mean! my hermann showed me his wee wee when i soak him... lol...

Haha...I'll keep a look out.

 

[georgemybaby]

Is the bottom of the shell curved or flat. If the bottom is curved its male if flat it's female

 

[juli11]

I never see a gracea which have colors like yours! The brightest I know are the "golden Greek". So either you've got a golden Ibera Greek or an esteem subspecies like the antakyensis or terrestris. I can't say which species is is definitely! There are so much new subspecies which exist for a while and than they vanish. So do you know the area from his/her parents? From where do you got your tort?

 

[Yvonne G]

Is the bottom of the shell curved or flat. If the bottom is curved its male if flat it's female

Sometimes it takes several years for the plastron to develop the male curve. The OP's tortoise is still too young to have developed the curve you're talking about.

 

[tortoiseowner101]

What the shell ???

 

[ismail]

wow what a shell?! what humidity r u keeping?