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Hi,
The 4" law is a legalization issue, and interesting to debate, but not so big a deal for 'backyard' turtle people, or for those who don't sell at expos etc.
The law that seems outdated, is the interstate sale of some of the longer listed CITES I species but not the newer CITES I listed species.
I know that CITES and the ESA are different laws, but one begat the other long ago, and so now, we have restrictions on Radiated and Galops, both in ESA and CITES,
I get CITES, I don't like it, but it makes sense to me. What does not make sense is the irregular implementation of which specie are subject to needed a permit and those that are not.
The ESA is a compliance with the CITES - each nation state must have internal regulations that work with CITES to be a signatory. But what has that got to do with inter-state sale of non-native species?
The ESA ought to not regulate the interstate sale of non-native species, or all non-native species that are CITES I ought to require the CBW permit.
See what I mean?
I would like to see the CBW permit be gone.
Will
The 4" law is a legalization issue, and interesting to debate, but not so big a deal for 'backyard' turtle people, or for those who don't sell at expos etc.
The law that seems outdated, is the interstate sale of some of the longer listed CITES I species but not the newer CITES I listed species.
I know that CITES and the ESA are different laws, but one begat the other long ago, and so now, we have restrictions on Radiated and Galops, both in ESA and CITES,
I get CITES, I don't like it, but it makes sense to me. What does not make sense is the irregular implementation of which specie are subject to needed a permit and those that are not.
The ESA is a compliance with the CITES - each nation state must have internal regulations that work with CITES to be a signatory. But what has that got to do with inter-state sale of non-native species?
The ESA ought to not regulate the interstate sale of non-native species, or all non-native species that are CITES I ought to require the CBW permit.
See what I mean?
I would like to see the CBW permit be gone.
Will