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Three-Striped Mud Turtles: BOLD & PINSTRIPE

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  1. Pastel Tortie

    Pastel Tortie Well-Known Member Platinum Tortoise Club Tortoise Club

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    Pinstripe is beginning to show more signs of trouble-finding lately. Some of it may be protesting the pellets she would rather not eat.

    Would you believe, it's PINSTRIPE who's trying to figure out how to climb up the artificial rock housing of the filter?
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  2. Pastel Tortie

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    I'm going to have to make two turtles very unhappy with me in the near future. :(

    Bold and Pinstripe REALLY like their artificial log hide. I REALLY like their artificial log hide. Problem is, there just isn't enough room for two growing turtles to get around their 20 long with all their tank furniture.

    I'm paranoid about one of them (either of them) getting lodged between the furniture and the tank wall, or between two pieces of furniture, or whatever. So for now, one of the bigger pieces has to go. We've decided it needs to be the log that has to go because the log is not as tall as the artificial rock hide (the one we call Pride Rock).

    As the turtles have been growing, I have been raising the water level, gradually. It is not a dramatic difference in water depth, but it is enough to cover most of the top of the log now, so it isn't as good for the turtles to haul out of the water and bask on, as it used to be.
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    That's my sliders Slick and Spike. Slicks shell was a little Jacked up when I got him from bad care but it's gotten a little better.
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    Pastel Tortie Well-Known Member Platinum Tortoise Club Tortoise Club

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    Pinstripe had a few complaints, last time I weighed and measured the turtles.
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    However, I did get my data. :D
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    Tuesday, June 4, 2019

    PINSTRIPE
    SCL: 2 & 13/32 inches
    Weight: 49 grams

    BOLD
    SCL: 2 & 28/32 inches (2 & 7/8")
    Weight: 79 grams
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  6. Pastel Tortie

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    Pinstripe: Um, Mom? Can you come here for a minute?
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    Me: Sure, Pinstripe. What is it? I see you're getting used to the new tank furniture from last week.

    Pinstripe: Yeah, now we have a TREE! Bold said that was important...

    Anyway, um, Mom... Tell me if you see it.
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    Me: See what?

    Pinstripe (whispers): It's a UFO! :eek:
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    Me: A UFO??

    Pinstripe: Yes, a UFO... An Unidentified Floating Object!

    Me: OH! THAT kind of UFO!

    Pinstripe: It showed up this morning.

    Me: Well, yes... I put it there... I thought you and Bold might like it. Do you think you could try it?
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    Pinstripe: It's different. I guess that's okay. But what is it? And why is it here?

    Me: It's called Banana. You can eat it. Really, you can eat it. What do you think?
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    Pinstripe: Does it wriggle?

    Me: ... :rolleyes:
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    Come on Pinstripe! Be adventurous. Just try a little bit!!!
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    Oh, this is HILARIOUS!!!! She really DOES look skeptical!!!!!!:)
    LOVE IT!!!!!! :D:D:D:<3:
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    Pastel Tortie, I've been meaning to ask you: how deep is your water, and what filter do you use?
    (I might MIGHT take GimpyCutie. But since he only has 3 legs, I want to make darn sure he can get around well in my 20 gal long).

    And I TOTALLY ADORE your turtle set up!!!!!!:):<3::<3::<3::<3:
    Bold and Pinstripe have absolutely nothing to complain about...except maybe banana UFOs (still giggling over that one!!!;))
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    Thanks! I'm glad you like the setup!

    The water level in Bold and Pinstripe's tank is currently around 5 inches deep, including about an inch of substrate.

    The filter in their tank is a TetraFauna brand Decorative ReptoFilter. It claims to be "ideal for shallow water terrariums with 4-6 inches of water." It is a 90 GPH pump that "Filters up to 55-gallon shallow-water aquatic terrariums."

    These aren't great pictures of the box, but maybe it would help with identification.
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    Thanks!
    I checked out the Reviews on Amazon, and there seems to be a fair amount of complaint about the power and quality of the pump and filter.
    How is is working for you?
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    Well, it isn't perfect. It does leave something to be desired. However, much of that is probably based on the design/type of unit: It's a self-contained unit, where the intake and output is in the same location in the tank.

    The biggest problem I've experienced with it is that anacharis and moss strands get pulled in through the intake holes at the bottom. (On the bright side, that does prove that it circulates the water in the tank.) So I have to do some aquatic weeding / preventative maintenance on a daily basis.

    Much of that issue would be mitigated by adhering small pieces of plastic canvas over each intake hole at the bottom of the unit. It's similar to what @Toddrickfl1 suggested about the egg crate to keep larger pieces of plant matter out of the filter.

    The only reason I haven't affixed the plastic canvas over the intake holes is because it would have to be dry-docked for the adhesive to work and dry appropriately. I haven't wanted to dry everything out yet.

    From a "bang for the buck" standpoint, there are probably better filters for the going cost of the unit. I picked up a couple of them on clearance when Drs. Foster and Smith cleaned out their reptile related inventory (over a year ago). I paid a fraction of the typical price.

    I did like that this unit was completely self-contained, so their weren't any hoses or tubing going outside the tank. For us, that helped with cat mitigation (high priority around our house).
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    A couple weeks or so ago, we upgraded the tank furniture in Bold and Pinstripe's 20 long. One of the things we did was to upsize the "Pride Rock" basking platform / hide. (We went up to the Large size.)

    For the first several days, I was concerned that Bold and Pinstripe might be having difficulty getting onto the new platform to bask. They eventually set my mind at ease, and we have seen each turtle up there, basking, at least a few times.

    However, this was a first for me... This afternoon.
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    They're both up there, together. Quite unusual. I'm guessing there's safety in numbers. Either that, or they're trying to tweak each other...

    ...and fell asleep doing so!
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    Yes, they BOTH fell asleep basking. Together.
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    SOOOOOO SWEET!!!
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    In case there's any question regarding the pictures of the two turtles basking together (asleep), Bold is in front, and Pinstripe is in back.

    Bold's carapace is more brown than Pinstripe's carapace.
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    Weights and Measurements

    Friday, June 21, 2019

    PINSTRIPE
    SCL: 2.5 inches
    Weight: 60 grams

    BOLD
    SCL: 2 & 15/16 inches (almost 3")
    Weight: 88 grams

    Preliminary Analysis / Comments

    Best guess, Bold and Pinstripe are hitting their first birthday (hatch date) around now.

    Pinstripe finally hit the 2.5" SCL mark! :D
    Bold likely hit the 2.5" SCL mark in early April.
    Now, in late June, Bold is creeping closer and closer to the 3" SCL mark.

    Growth-wise, Bold may be less than 3 months ahead of Pinstripe. I guess we'll have to wait and see how close Pinstripe is to 3" SCL toward the end of September.

    Since mid-April...
    Pinstripe has doubled in weight (from 30g to 60g) and grown 1/2" SCL.
    Bold has gained not quite 30g during that time and grown about 3/8" SCL.

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    I think they did at least TRY the banana UFOs... I even saw Pinstripe nip at one.
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    You've got to keep an eye on those quiet ones...they are the secret trouble-makers!!! :p
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    Interesting data- You do a VERY good job keeping up with that!
    In comparison, I weighed and measured Nelson this morning, keeping in mind he is a different species. He's also just shy of 6 months old.
    As of today, Nelson is the same LENGTH as Pinstripe: 2.5 inches!!!:cool:
    But he weighs less: 44 grams. :)
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    Interesting. Maybe those egg-shaped mud turtle carapaces contain more mass and/or volume than Nelson's triangular carapace.
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