Danny situation!

[philipgreece]

I think I saw in your previous post that someone asked you about your indoor temperature and humidity is for Danny? I don’t think you answered? And from What Iv read if Danny is not feeling well he needs it to be very warm to help him recover. Not just outside sunlight

Ok the temperature at night is 22 and the humidity 60% should I increase the temperature? I release him outside woth sun because my danny poops always when he covers big distance! That's why I try to motivate him to pass poops! Should I stop it? In the meantime I have ordered new uvb lamps because in Greece is extremely difficult to find! I use an arcadia 12% but its one year old now and I don't know if its still produce the right amount! In the morning I wake him up and put him where the lamps are to take uv and heat but after some minutes he goes back to dig and sleep! He can pees though when I soak him!

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Ok the temperature at night is 22 and the humidity 60% should I increase the temperature? I release him outside woth sun because my danny poops always when he covers big distance! That's why I try to motivate him to pass poops! Should I stop it? In the meantime I have ordered new uvb lamps because in Greece is extremely difficult to find! I use an arcadia 12% but its one year old now and I don't know if its still produce the right amount! In the morning I wake him up and put him where the lamps are to take uv and heat but after some minutes he goes back to dig and sleep! He can pees though when I soak him!

You can rise nighttime temperature to 25-27C for a while. And I would continue to bring him outside, just don't let him eat more stones

If you had an Arcadia UVB lamp on for 4-6 hours a day and didn't turn it on every day (e.g. in summer) - it should last for another year.

 

[COmtnLady]

Where are they getting the stones? You need to block that area so they can't even get near it.

Are they stones or shell pieces, dolomite? If its shell pieces they may be low on calcium and are eating the stones trying to get more. Do you keep cuttlebones in their enclosures for them so they can nibble on them if they feel the need?

Is the one with the bad leg doing ok? It seems to have considerably more stones than Danny.

The Mineral Oil is a laxative and should help move those out if they can fit through the tubes. Don't add too much at a time though, that can cause damage.

Whenever a tortoise is not feeling well the temps and humidity need to be raised, as said in Alex's post above.

 

[philipgreece]

It sounds as though he may be pooping outside and you are just missing it. However, do you have pictures of the "stones" you spoke of? If so, please post them here.

More soaks, more deep water swims (the legs moving massage his insides and will help expel whatever is inside), keeping water warm (33 to 35 C) ALL the time he's in it. Watch closely that he doesn't sink or have trouble keeping his head above water during the deep-water exercising - if so hold him so his head id above the water.

Feed him whatever he will eat, at least for a few days or a week - anything is better than nothing.

Do you have access to Mineral Oil? You might try putting a drop of MINERAL OIL on some of what he will eat, rolling it inside so he doesn't get a huge bite of it first and stop eating that, too. You want it to be so slight, and hidden, that he can't taste it.
Also swab his cloaca, inside and out, getting Mineral Oil inside if you can. It soothes the passing and encourages more.



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You can rise nighttime temperature to 25-27C for a while. And I would continue to bring him outside, just don't let him eat more stones

If you had an Arcadia UVB lamp on for 4-6 hours a day and didn't turn it on every day (e.g. in summer) - it should last for another year.

Now Im always next to him when I take him outside! This year I found only arcadia uvb but with 6% I have lower the uvb kit in 15 inches in height! Do you its ok? I couldn't find 12%!

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Now Im always next to him when I take him outside! This year I found only arcadia uvb but with 6% I have lower the uvb kit in 15 inches in height! Do you its ok? I couldn't find 12%!

Maybe you can find ZooMed Reptisun 10.0 lamp (just tube)? I believe I've seen some at Skroutz...

You can also 6% Arcadia (but you can use it too, at 13-14" over substrate). Or simple put your 12% lamp at 15-16" (UV just weakens, not disappears completely after a year).

 

[philipgreece]

Maybe you can find ZooMed Reptisun 10.0 lamp (just tube)? I believe I've seen some at Skroutz...

You can also 6% Arcadia (but you can use it too, at 13-14" over substrate). Or simple put your 12% lamp at 15-16" (UV just weakens, not disappears completely after a year).

Thank you! I came in contact with 3 stores in Greece and uvb for now on aren't available! The only uvb that I can have soon is 6% of arcadia! I wait for them next week! I remember one store told me.they have 14% for bearded dragons but I think these lamps aren't the correct right?

Maybe you can find ZooMed Reptisun 10.0 lamp (just tube)? I believe I've seen some at Skroutz...

You can also 6% Arcadia (but you can use it too, at 13-14" over substrate). Or simple put your 12% lamp at 15-16" (UV just weakens, not disappears completely after a year).

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Thank you! I came in contact with 3 stores in Greece and uvb for now on aren't available! The only uvb that I can have soon is 6% of arcadia! I wait for them next week! I remember one store told me.they have 14% for bearded dragons but I think these lamps aren't the correct right?

1. No rush with the lamp, you have enough time to use the current one and wait for order to arrive.
2. Dragon 14% can be used too. Just place it higher than Desert lamp (+10-15cm higher).

 

[philipgreece]

1. No rush with the lamp, you have enough time to use the current one and wait for order to arrive.
2. Dragon 14% can be used too. Just place it higher than Desert lamp (+10-15cm higher).

I try to feed him! He eats some bites he sneezes and he leaves the food! He does this when he tries to eat! He never did that!

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

I try to feed him! He eats some bites he sneezes and he leaves the food! He does this when he tries to eat! He never did that!

Honestly, I don't know what's happening... I would keep him warm at night (25-27C) as suggested above.

When he bites food or yawns - check if his mouth and tongue are pink and beak edge looks healthy (maybe Wilma can be a reference, plus a photo under bright daylight would be good).

 

[philipgreece]

Honestly, I don't know what's happening... I would keep him warm at night (25-27C) as suggested above.

When he bites food or yawns - check if his mouth and tongue are pink and beak edge looks healthy (maybe Wilma can be a reference, plus a photo under bright daylight would be good).

Ok I will check! Tongue is pink though! His jaw is black because he eats mostly greens! He passed poop yesterday and today! I gave him a little bit multivitamins in powder today but he ate a slice of banana with it! He didn't eat today! Some bites again!

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Ok I will check! Tongue is pink though! His jaw is black because he eats mostly greens! He passed poop yesterday and today! I gave him a little bit multivitamins in powder today but he ate a slice of banana with it! He didn't eat today! Some bites again!

He might be thinking of brumation (hibernation) and that's why he is less active and not eating. Hopefully, in a week or two he will change his mind Keep tracking his weight - he should not lose too much.

 

[COmtnLady]

It sounds like you expect him to eat all his food at the moment you set it in front of him, as though he was a dog. Tortoises don't do that. They eat some, walk away, a few hours later come back, eat more, ignore it for several hours, come back in the middle of the night for a snack, go sleep a while, and so on.