awesome torts but them being taken from the wild sucks. why cant people leave things be? all comes down to money i assume. 
Ethiopian giant
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not sure but some photos show they have permits
awesome torts but them being taken from the wild sucks. why cant people leave things be? all comes down to money i assume.
None of us would have any tortoises if some hadn't been taken from the wild in years past.
The key is moderation. Its perfectly fine to remove some of them from the wild and give them good captive homes and start some captive breeding populations, its just not cool to remove too many.
Good point, I never thought of it that way, True of all the pets we keep. Its one of those things people tend to forget about, we're so used to the word pet i guess.
Moderation is key, Unfortunately a lot people don't understand the meaning of the word, Those people who see animals as nothing more than a cash flow. To alot of those folk every last one still wouldn't be enough.
I just find it sad to see those giants being rounded up and put in crates when they have been free to roam for so many years. lets hope they all ended up in good homes with people who take good care of them.
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sulcata is already one good example
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@FLINTUS @Tom the new webpage for the Spain importer, if I have the right place http://www.mundotortuga.com/nuevaversion/ no longer indicates they have-or breed/sell neonate 'ethiopiensis' as they had in the older version of there web page. Any word on those secret Swiss animals?
Yes it is. It is an example of a species that is under constant, relentless attack in the wild and is extinct in some of its former range and highly endangered and rare in other parts of its range. Due to one of these horrible only-care-about-cash people, many of them were imported in the 90s and now we have a large stable captive breeding population in captivity. This species is nearly extinct in the wild, but due to renegade profiteers it is now probably the most populous tortoise species on the planet.
What a success story, huh? Brought back from the brink of extinction!
No, I don't know this site but if you take a closer look in this site you can see that it isn't really professional and so I think it's not serious.
What do you mean with "secret Swiss animals"? Sorry don't understand your text...
Do you mean that you don't see the paradalis ethiopiensis on their website? If you mean that I can say that many of them are sold (know some buyers) and also I think I know the main importer of this import and he isn't the admin of this website so I think that the admins of this website bought animals from him and sold them.. Hopefully you mean that
There is a breeding facility in the Swiss Alps with a very large collection of tortoises, but it is not meant to be known by the public. Supposedly the collection features Ploughshares, homophus, impressa, Padlopers, etc.
Ah no sorry I can't help. I only know breeders of platynota, yniphora, H. areolatus and different types of coura who comes from Swiss but I don't know if they're a part of this facility.
