haven't been on for a while, but as I just posted to Yvonne, still tell all my new tortie clients to come here first for their most up-to-date and accurate information regarding our little shelled buddies...there is no place like this for good info and good people. Thanks all for the Bday wishes, the kangaroos are all doing great, will try to get some time and post some pics of all the critters with new housing ....the Aldabs are getting huge!!! can't believe how quickly the grow!