Either Im Confused OR My two males are copulating???!!!

[karlyholmes]

OMGSH! My 3 year old comes in and says "Brock is tipped over" so im going over there to turn him upright and this is what I see:

BUT the one in the female position is Oscar... "He" has a concave plastron, orange eyes and a fat big tail! Am I confused or is "he"? Is Oscar a girl? b/c clearly Brock is a boy... theyve been hiding together since the beginning but.... yikes! I dont know what to think here.

Some pics of oscar:

My finger is resting on "his" indented plastron

 

[Neal]

Do you have a picture of Oscars tail and hind legs? Looks like a female to me, but there are some male traits too. Females can have concave plastrons too.

 

[karlyholmes]

CAN THEY?! I checked and dont have any pics of his tail but I remember it being larger than my known females.

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Ill take some pics of "him" when they are done...

 

[Tom]

Males or females will also mount other males or females as a sign of dominance, just like dogs. I have a female jack russel that humps the cat to show him whose boss. You should see the look on the cats face while this happens.

 

[Neal]

CAN THEY?! I checked and dont have any pics of his tail but I remember it being larger than my known females.

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Ill take some pics of "him" when they are done...

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For sure. Males can have flat plastrons as well. In fact, I don't recall any of my 3-toed males ever having a significantly concave plastron.

 

[karlyholmes]

Males or females will also mount other males or females as a sign of dominance, just like dogs. I have a female jack russel that humps the cat to show him whose boss. You should see the look on the cats face while this happens.

Well Tom, I think you may be right! I think Oscar is still a boy. I put him in the soak tub to take pics and he flashed me- ive never seen photos of a girl flasher but here are the photos I got:

Plastron

More plastron/long tail away from shell

Flasher!

Going back in

Still male?

 

[Neal]

Definitely male. Let us know if you get any eggs from him.

 

[karlyholmes]

Haha! Will DO.