Russian tortoise suggestions

[Beetle_Rain]

I very unexpectedly was put into a situation where I needed to rescue a recovering Russian tortoise. He had a tough run in with shell rot and the owner didn’t want to take care of it anymore I suspect it was due to the enclosure he was kept in as it was pretty much fully enclosed and very tiny for a full grown adult. That being said along with continuing medicating him I built him a significantly larger enclosure out of a book case with a significant amount of ventilation and proper lighting. I also have a slate for him to bask and grind his nails on, a slate for him to eat from, a water dish he can lay in and a hide on his cool side. I will be adding a hide on the warm side as well but I haven’t found one big enough yet. Besides that hide does anyone have any ideas on adding more for enrichment or if I am missing anything please let me know as I am very attached to this old man already! It’s crazy that he is most likely older than me! I included a picture that really shows the scarring on his shell if anyone sees anything strange about that as well please let me know!!! Oh and his name is Mulligan!

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Hello to you and Mulligan! Thanks for helping him out!

You can make him a hide just by digging under the slate (if substrate is deep enough such bunker/burrow should work).

You can add some enrichment by placing visual barriers - plant pots, walls, substrate hills.. So he could not see whole enclosure from a single point. Some plants like boston fern, pothos or tradescantia make a nice hide, when pot is placed on the wall and you let fronds/vines to go down. The best enrichment is an outdoor enclosure, though...

I would add an overhang lip along the perimeter - Russian tortoises are incredibly skilled climbers. With added decorations it's easy to miss a potential escape route...

You may also add an ambient LED light to his enclosure - neither UV tube nor basking lamp are bright enough.

 

[Tom]

I very unexpectedly was put into a situation where I needed to rescue a recovering Russian tortoise. He had a tough run in with shell rot and the owner didn’t want to take care of it anymore I suspect it was due to the enclosure he was kept in as it was pretty much fully enclosed and very tiny for a full grown adult. That being said along with continuing medicating him I built him a significantly larger enclosure out of a book case with a significant amount of ventilation and proper lighting. I also have a slate for him to bask and grind his nails on, a slate for him to eat from, a water dish he can lay in and a hide on his cool side. I will be adding a hide on the warm side as well but I haven’t found one big enough yet. Besides that hide does anyone have any ideas on adding more for enrichment or if I am missing anything please let me know as I am very attached to this old man already! It’s crazy that he is most likely older than me! I included a picture that really shows the scarring on his shell if anyone sees anything strange about that as well please let me know!!! Oh and his name is Mulligan!
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That is not shell rot. Shell rot happens on the plastron and its from overly wet and/or unsanitary conditions. What you have there is carapace damage. It looks to me like thermal burns from a spot lamp due to its location and appearance. What are you medicating it with?

I have a few suggestions:
1. Get rid of the soil. Soil should never be used as tortoise substrate because there is no way to know what is in it. It could be something toxic or dangerous. It's also messy when it is kept properly damp. Use coco coir, cypress mulch, or orchid bark.
2. Your substrate needs to be kept properly damp to keep the dust down and to help with humidity.
3. I would use a second terra cotta saucer for the food to help keep the food out of the substrate and the substrate out of the food.
4. Russians need a minimum of 4x8 feet indoors.
5. If you are going to feed grocery store greens, they need to be amended.
6. Remove the hay. Russians are not grass eaters so there is no reason to have hay in the enclosure. It makes a mess and it will mold if your substrate is kept properly damp.
7. The beam coming out of the heat lamp looks very narrow. That appears to be a spot lamp. You need a flood lamp. Check the temperature under the bulb by placing a digital thermometer on its back directly under the bulb and letting it bake for an hour or more. I raise or lower the fixture based on the temperature. Shoot for around 95 at tortoise shell height.

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[Beetle_Rain]

Hello to you and Mulligan! Thanks for helping him out!

You can make him a hide just by digging under the slate (if substrate is deep enough such bunker/burrow should work).

You can add some enrichment by placing visual barriers - plant pots, walls, substrate hills.. So he could not see whole enclosure from a single point. Some plants like boston fern, pothos or tradescantia make a nice hide, when pot is placed on the wall and you let fronds/vines to go down. The best enrichment is an outdoor enclosure, though...

I would add an overhang lip along the perimeter - Russian tortoises are incredibly skilled climbers. With added decorations it's easy to miss a potential escape route...

You may also add an ambient LED light to his enclosure - neither UV tube nor basking lamp are bright enough.

I will definitely be building him an outdoor enclosure I was under the impression that he was dealing with shell rot and found out from another user that isn’t true so I was keeping him inside for treatment! I’ll definitely be adding visual barriers and I love the plant idea as I grow pothos already! I have some led lighting on the way as well! Thank you for helping me out!

 

[Beetle_Rain]

That is not shell rot. Shell rot happens on the plastron and its from overly wet and/or unsanitary conditions. What you have there is carapace damage. It looks to me like thermal burns from a spot lamp due to its location and appearance. What are you medicating it with?

I have a few suggestions:
1. Get rid of the soil. Soil should never be used as tortoise substrate because there is no way to know what is in it. It could be something toxic or dangerous. It's also messy when it is kept properly damp. Use coco coir, cypress mulch, or orchid bark.
2. Your substrate needs to be kept properly damp to keep the dust down and to help with humidity.
3. I would use a second terra cotta saucer for the food to help keep the food out of the substrate and the substrate out of the food.
4. Russians need a minimum of 4x8 feet indoors.
5. If you are going to feed grocery store greens, they need to be amended.
6. Remove the hay. Russians are not grass eaters so there is no reason to have hay in the enclosure. It makes a mess and it will mold if your substrate is kept properly damp.
7. The beam coming out of the heat lamp looks very narrow. That appears to be a spot lamp. You need a flood lamp. Check the temperature under the bulb by placing a digital thermometer on its back directly under the bulb and letting it bake for an hour or more. I raise or lower the fixture based on the temperature. Shoot for around 95 at tortoise shell height.

All of this and more is right here:

Info For New People. Please Read This First.

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Oh thank you for letting me know his previous owner had me continue to give Betadine baths for it she had him living in a small box before I got him and I assumed he was exposed to to much humidity in that environment. His plastron definitely has scaring similar to the top of his shell as well. The soil in his enclosure is a mix of coco core and repti soil is that still inappropriate? He will be getting an outdoor enclosure very soon and will only be inside during the fall and winter! I’ll definitely remove the day right away he just really enjoys laying under it but I’ll add more coco core so he has even more burrowing room! As for his heating he the bulb itself is an Arcadia flood bulb the issue must be my lamp shape I’ll switch it out for one that provides a wider beam his basking temp is perfect thankfully! I’ll also pick him up a saucer to eat from thank you so much for helping me out!

 

[Tom]

Oh thank you for letting me know his previous owner had me continue to give Betadine baths for it she had him living in a small box before I got him and I assumed he was exposed to to much humidity in that environment. His plastron definitely has scaring similar to the top of his shell as well. The soil in his enclosure is a mix of coco core and repti soil is that still inappropriate? He will be getting an outdoor enclosure very soon and will only be inside during the fall and winter! I’ll definitely remove the day right away he just really enjoys laying under it but I’ll add more coco core so he has even more burrowing room! As for his heating he the bulb itself is an Arcadia flood bulb the issue must be my lamp shape I’ll switch it out for one that provides a wider beam his basking temp is perfect thankfully! I’ll also pick him up a saucer to eat from thank you so much for helping me out!

Betadine should only be used once to disinfect. Repeated use kills the regenerating tissue. If those marks are on top and bottom, it could be damage from a dog attack.

Check the temperature under the bulb. That will tell you if you need to make a change or not.

I would not use reptisoil.

 

[Beetle_Rain]

Betadine should only be used once to disinfect. Repeated use kills the regenerating tissue. If those marks are on top and bottom, it could be damage from a dog attack.

Check the temperature under the bulb. That will tell you if you need to make a change or not.

I would not use reptisoil.

Got it I will switch out the substrate this weekend! And I’ll stop the medicated soaks and just monitor him closely for now! I just want him to finally have the easy stress free life he deserves! Would you recommend I mix the coco core and mulch?