suitable waterproof paint for enclosure

[nadiagl]

Water Based Epoxy Resin Pond Paint 1L (Dark Blue)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OHP691S?tag=exoticpetnetw-20 All in One Paint - Waterproof Multi Surface Paint for Bathroom, Bathtub, Tile, Acrylic Paint for Wet Surfaces, Sink, Kitchen Cabinet, Worktop,

Wood, Furniture - Matte & 250ml (Black)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0D82BFLBH?tag=exoticpetnetw-20

theyre both non-toxic which one do you guys recommend (if its one of your own share it on the comments please)
i honestly dont know what exactly im looking for , i know non-toxic is a good indicator but does it have to be specifically non-toxic TO PETS or just non-toxic is fine?

 

[Tom]

Water Based Epoxy Resin Pond Paint 1L (Dark Blue)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OHP691S?tag=exoticpetnetw-20 All in One Paint - Waterproof Multi Surface Paint for Bathroom, Bathtub, Tile, Acrylic Paint for Wet Surfaces, Sink, Kitchen Cabinet, Worktop,

Wood, Furniture - Matte & 250ml (Black)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0D82BFLBH?tag=exoticpetnetw-20

theyre both non-toxic which one do you guys recommend (if its one of your own share it on the comments please)
i honestly dont know what exactly im looking for , i know non-toxic is a good indicator but does it have to be specifically non-toxic TO PETS or just non-toxic is fine?

Hello and welcome. Is this for an indoor closed chamber or for an outdoor night box? What species and size tortoise?

Neither are suitable and neither will stand up to tortoise abuse or the constant moisture from damp substrate. I tried boat paint that was meant to be submerged at one point, and that worked for a while, but it was expensive, and the wear and tear of the tortoise walking around and rubbing on it with their hard shells wore it away leaving bare wood.

DryLok doesn't work. I used three thick coats of that and the bottom literally fell out of the enclosure after 15 months.

Flex seal doesn't hold up.

I met with the store manager, paint manager, and paint supply rep at Home Depot one time and they all agreed that there is nothing you can buy off the shelf that will work.

There is a product called Pond Shield that works, BUT, it's difficult to mix, difficult to apply correctly, and it's expensive. Its totally water proof, BUT, over time, the hard tortoise shells wear it away too.

The solution is to use building materials that are impervious to water and don't need paint. Expanded PVC sheets are the best way to go. They can be tough to find, but sometimes Home Depot or Lowes will have it, and other times I've been able to get it from sign makers.

 

[nadiagl]

Hello and welcome. Is this for an indoor closed chamber or for an outdoor night box? What species and size tortoise?

Neither are suitable and neither will stand up to tortoise abuse or the constant moisture from damp substrate. I tried boat paint that was meant to be submerged at one point, and that worked for a while, but it was expensive, and the wear and tear of the tortoise walking around and rubbing on it with their hard shells wore it away leaving bare wood.

DryLok doesn't work. I used three thick coats of that and the bottom literally fell out of the enclosure after 15 months.

Flex seal doesn't hold up.

I met with the store manager, paint manager, and paint supply rep at Home Depot one time and they all agreed that there is nothing you can buy off the shelf that will work.

There is a product called Pond Shield that works, BUT, it's difficult to mix, difficult to apply correctly, and it's expensive. Its totally water proof, BUT, over time, the hard tortoise shells wear it away too.

The solution is to use building materials that are impervious to water and don't need paint. Expanded PVC sheets are the best way to go. They can be tough to find, but sometimes Home Depot or Lowes will have it, and other times I've been able to get it from sign makers.

Hello this is for an indoor closed enclosure, it's a russian tortoise no older than 2 , Ive built the shape of the enclosure so that it's sort of deep so I can put more substrate in so that my tortoise can dig in , I have these plastic sheets that I would maybe could help reduce the rotting of the wood (not relying on it solely of course) so I thought maybe some paint could help so that it could be 'double' protected

 

[Tom]

Hello this is for an indoor closed enclosure, it's a russian tortoise no older than 2 , Ive built the shape of the enclosure so that it's sort of deep so I can put more substrate in so that my tortoise can dig in , I have these plastic sheets that I would maybe could help reduce the rotting of the wood (not relying on it solely of course) so I thought maybe some paint could help so that it could be 'double' protected

The drier you keep it, the longer it will last. I've had other wood closed chambers that I used for drier lizard species, and those lasted for years with no rot at all. I didn't paint or treat that plywood at all.

 

[nadiagl]

The drier you keep it, the longer it will last. I've had other wood closed chambers that I used for drier lizard species, and those lasted for years with no rot at all. I didn't paint or treat that plywood at all.

Okay thank you so much for your help!

 

[The_Four_Toed_Edward]

Hello this is for an indoor closed enclosure, it's a russian tortoise no older than 2 , Ive built the shape of the enclosure so that it's sort of deep so I can put more substrate in so that my tortoise can dig in , I have these plastic sheets that I would maybe could help reduce the rotting of the wood (not relying on it solely of course) so I thought maybe some paint could help so that it could be 'double' protected

I would recommend using some sort of pin liner, plastic sheet or shower curtain under the substrate since you do want to have the bottom of the substrate somewhat moist.

 

[nadiagl]

I would recommend using some sort of pin liner, plastic sheet or shower curtain under the substrate since you do want to have the bottom of the substrate somewhat moist.

That was also my logic I've got two plastic sheets for the bottom that worked fairly well

 

[The_Four_Toed_Edward]

That was also my logic I've got two plastic sheets for the bottom that worked fairly well

I have an open top enclosure made of untreated wood with a plastic tray on the bottom. Two shower curtains have been enough to protect the wood, but a closed enclosure is of course a different story.