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Yvonne G

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Well, it's grey, sprinkling and ugly outside today. I've taken care of the animals and I'm back inside with my little electric space heater. The whole time I was tending the tortoises Misty was waiting for me in front of the door to the house under the awning. She doesn't like the rain!

What's the name of the fighter who had his ear bit by the other fighter? I've named my new tom cat Tony the Tiger, but I think a better name would be that boxer with the ear. Right now the whole right side of his face is bald and scabby and he has a big blood scab on one ear. He fancies himself this great fighter and picks fights with Mr. Kitty (neutered young male). Mr. Kitty has a tiny scratch or bite mark here or there, but nothing compared to how Tony looks. He's a fighter, just not a very good one. If it weren't so serious, their fights would be almost comical. Before I let Misty out to break them up, they actually look like those cartoon fights where the cartoon characters are spinning around like a top with the yowls and growls and stars and lightning bolts jumping out of the spin.
 

Cathie G

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Didn't finish.............I was going to say. but you're right there is a lot of conflicting info out there. I soon realised that TFO seemed to have the most members with a wealth of information from experienced keepers on every topic, so this became my 'How to Keep a Tortoise Instruction Book'
My favorite part is the continuing discussions from experiences. It seems like I've had to incorporate every single hobby I've ever had into tortoise care. From hand woodworking, growing herbs and gardening, even basket weaving from plants I find or can grow has taught me something but I needed a teacher to help quide me first.
 

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Didn't finish.............I was going to say. but you're right there is a lot of conflicting info out there. I soon realised that TFO seemed to have the most members with a wealth of information from experienced keepers on every topic, so this became my 'How to Keep a Tortoise Instruction Book'

I joined another forum, UK based, at the same time as this one and it was awful. Newbies were being bullied all over the place... and some of the worst bullies were the moderators.

I am so glad I found TFO
 

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I'm not computer literate, so I don't really understand "app." Why is it necessary to use an app to access the Forum when it's right there on the web?

On a smartphone or ipad, the screen is small. The app reformats the forum content so it works better on the phone. My ageing eyes need a magnifying glass to read TFO browser version on my iPhone screen
 

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Well, it's grey, sprinkling and ugly outside today. I've taken care of the animals and I'm back inside with my little electric space heater. The whole time I was tending the tortoises Misty was waiting for me in front of the door to the house under the awning. She doesn't like the rain!

What's the name of the fighter who had his ear bit by the other fighter? I've named my new tom cat Tony the Tiger, but I think a better name would be that boxer with the ear. Right now the whole right side of his face is bald and scabby and he has a big blood scab on one ear. He fancies himself this great fighter and picks fights with Mr. Kitty (neutered young male). Mr. Kitty has a tiny scratch or bite mark here or there, but nothing compared to how Tony looks. He's a fighter, just not a very good one. If it weren't so serious, their fights would be almost comical. Before I let Misty out to break them up, they actually look like those cartoon fights where the cartoon characters are spinning around like a top with the yowls and growls and stars and lightning bolts jumping out of the spin.

Mike Tyson bit Evander Holyfield’s ear
 

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On a smartphone or ipad, the screen is small. The app reformats the forum content so it works better on the phone. My ageing eyes need a magnifying glass to read TFO browser version on my iPhone screen

It’s this
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Versus this
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on a screen measuring 4”x2”

A lot of people only have a smart phone. They don’t own laptops or computers these days.
 

Cathie G

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I did some testing to see what poeple see when they research general question like for exemple « how to raise a russian tortoise » a couple weeks ago, the results where sometimes disapointing. Tfo not being on the first page at all, people very rarely go to page two when researching someting and here are the first results: 1:wikihow, 2 and 3 :reptilesmagazine, 4:wikihow again, 5: russiantortoise.com, 6: petmd, 7: azea.com, 8:tortoisesupply and 9: earthfriends. I’ve looked these sites amd they all say different things about the care, it must be very confusing for someone trying to find the right answer. Of course there are questions that put tfo on the first page like « how to raise a sulcata » putting it in 4th position.

I wish tfo was always on the first page and first results. Companies pay a lot of money to be first results so I know it’s already good for such a small thing like tfo. I think what really put tfo on the map is the continuous effort of long time members to educate people. I mean this is a lot of work think of how many people over the years that got helped and could raise their tortoise right and often saved their torts life. It’s like volunteering for tortoises around the world and im sure they do it because they like it and they get something positive out of it but I truly have much respect for their dedication.
It might be the questions I ask or the pet shops I use. Maybe both. I like camp kenan too. But you're right. It took me a few years to find TFO. I've only recently even learned how to go online to find information I need. I always tried to use books before. I still like books but now I have all kinds of information also. It's helping.
 

Yvonne G

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I joined another forum, UK based, at the same time as this one and it was awful. Newbies were being bullied all over the place... and some of the worst bullies were the moderators.

I am so glad I found TFO
Was that Shelled Warriors? I still belong to that one. There's not much activity over there, but I haven't encountered any rudeness. I don't like it because I can't post pictures there. The only way to post pictures is to go through a picture hosting program, and I don't like to use them.
 

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Was that Shelled Warriors? I still belong to that one. There's not much activity over there, but I haven't encountered any rudeness. I don't like it because I can't post pictures there. The only way to post pictures is to go through a picture hosting program, and I don't like to use them.

It was SW. I haven’t been on it for years. Not since the bullying got really bad. I guess people voted with their feet and left. Tom was banned from there I think. He has strong opinions, but he isn’t a bully.
 

Yvonne G

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It was SW. I haven’t been on it for years. Not since the bullying got really bad. I guess people voted with their feet and left. Tom was banned from there I think. He has strong opinions, but he isn’t a bully.
Yeah, it's a shell of its former self. Some days there are no new posts at all, and when there are new posts it's only one, maybe two.
 

Cathie G

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On a smartphone or ipad, the screen is small. The app reformats the forum content so it works better on the phone. My ageing eyes need a magnifying glass to read TFO browser version on my iPhone screen
Yes. I really enjoy my phone with TFO but sometimes my eyes are having really bad effects from the light. I just have to stop because I can't read it. I think a computer would do the same though.
 

CarolM

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No I meant Carol H. I see you on here a lot and Carol H. I haven't seen her for awhile. She drove a long drive to get another tortoise recently so I'm hoping that's why. Just too busy. Our weather has been pretty bad. Hers was a bit worse because she's farther north in our state of Ohio.
It is confusing. I am not familiar with Carol H. And I did not know that there was a Carol H in the CDR.
 

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I sort of have key equivalents built into my head..I might not know exactly the temp “over there”, but good enough
Every 1 degree of C = 1.8 degrees F.

For example for 5C, the formula to get F is: (5°C × 1.8) + 32 = 41°F

Key Equivalents to Remember

0 C = 32 F
10 C = 50 F
15 C = 60 F
20 C = 68 F
30 C = 85 F
40 C = 105 F
Thanks that helps a lot.
 
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