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Was wondering if any of you breed sulcata's or leopards? I'm think Genevieve needs a friend when she gets better :) thanks!
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I have a clutch due in the next few days, but I really wouldn't recommend getting another one. They do best by themselves. If you really want more than one, and think that that is the lifestyle you want to have in a few years, then I recommend more than just two. Pairs are often problematic. Here's a thread I started on the subject.
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/Thread-Pairs#axzz1jg80gMhP
 

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We dot mind buying 2 more but is the encloser I have now good for 3 for the time being? It's a 100 gallon tank. We're buying a bigger house this year and plan on having a little "tortoise farm" when there bigger. Will leopards and sulcata's do well Togeather? Will they breed each other? If we do go this route. I need to know of I should keep the specias separate at a certain age? We do like leopards a lot too and they would hold up better in the colder weather and not dig so much bit then again we love our sulcata and of she's digging and what's one more haha!!!
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Curiosity. How much do you sell your leopards and Sullies and how much to ship? Thanks so much!

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Of my wording.. Hope you could make that out :-/
 

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The species should always be kept separate, and yes it is possible for them to breed and hybridize. This should not be allowed to happen in my opinion. The species should not be mixed for behavior reasons and for the potential of disease spreading. Generally speaking, from what I have seen, sulcatas handle cold better than leopards. Judging solely by what I know of the climates they come from, it makes sense to me that the South African leopards can better handle the cold than the leopards from more Northern, tropical areas.
 

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Really, from what I read the leopards are better in the cooler weather. Perhaps we will stick with just the sulcata's :)
 

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Did he have a pig blanket for them or any source of heat? Very interesting!!! We have snow though. I can imagine it would be okay to leave a sullie out in the blanket without shelter and a heat source.
 

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I don't know if that's a typo or not, but for anyone else reading this thread, I felt I had to elaborate.

A sulcata comes from a fairly warm climate. They dig deep burrows, deep enough that if it should happen to get pretty cold some night, the warmth of the earth still keeps the tortoise warm.

If you live in an area of the world where the night time temps get down below 50f degrees, then your sulcata needs to have an outside heat source. The shelter goes without saying. All tortoises should be provided with a safe and dry shelter. So the heat source would go inside the shelter. I have a dog house type shelter that is only heated with a red light. Then I have several more shed type shelters that have pig blankets on the floor and heat lamps hanging from the ceiling.

By the way...a pig "blanket" is NOT a blanket. It is a shaped, hard, waterproof piece of either plastic or fiberglass with heat elements embedded in it.
 

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I knew that Emy... Not sure if you wanted everyone to know this or just me, I'v done my research :)

I ment to leave a sullie out without a pig blanket or other source of heat or shelter
 

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While I don't recommend it, and would never do it, I am just reporting that this man DOES do it, with no heat source at all, and his sulcata tortoises have been surviving that way for years here in Ojai, CA. He made it clear that his leopards can not take this routine.

I 100% agree with Yvonne that all tortoises should have an appropriate shelter for the species and the season or weather. I would never let one of MY sulcatas sleep outside their shelter on a cold night. I am lucky that they all go in on their own, but on the occasion that they don't, I put them in myself.
 

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Just an FYI the man in ojai spoke at my turtle and tortoise club, very informative talk and great pictures.

Sorry for going OT
 

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Very interesting and I agree I wouldn't feel comfortable having my torts outside
In the freezing cold and snow BUT it is interesting that they can survive this and a little reassuring that they are such tough animals!!! Okay now for some more questions. When do torts start mating and how often do they do so? For instance, is it only a couple months a year? Do they lay eggs all year? Lastly, is there anyway to tell of you have boys or girls as hatchlings? What do you do when you think you have fertilized eggs? Do you incubate them yourself and how long do they sit before they hatch? Sorry so many questions but if you look online it is hard to find answers about these beauty's! Thanks :)
 
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