Arizona Breeders?

chosen2030

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Is there a database for local breeders anywhere? Looking for South African Pardalis pardalis CBB in Arizona.
 

Neal

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I am in Chandler, but don't breed the SA variety of leopards. Only the normal type.
 

Grandpa Turtle 144

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I'm in Phx. I raise leopards and many more torts . But I like to think of my self as a collector. But sorry not your type of leopards .
 

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I don't know of anyone in AZ that starts them in a way that I find satisfactory. It will do you no good to buy them locally only to have them die weeks or months later because they were started too dry in their first few weeks before you got them. Check this out:
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/hatchling-failure-syndrome.23493/

Then, for comparison sake, read this:
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/how-to-incubate-eggs-and-start-hatchlings.124266/

You also have to beware that lots of people are selling mixes and unverifiable tortoises that don't look like the typical ones we refer to as South Africans.

I have two left. Both hatched with unusual scute patterns:
IMG_3776.JPG

If you don't like either of these, I have a buddy here in CA that breeds and starts his right. His stock is directly from the same true SA stock as mine. He has them hatching all the time. I'm also in the process of incubating four new clutches currently, with more eggs to come all summer long and into November.

One last thing: If you don't like shipping, I drive to AZ every November for the TTPG and I could hand delver if you don't mind waiting.
 

Grandpa Turtle 144

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I don't know of anyone in AZ that starts them in a way that I find satisfactory. It will do you no good to buy them locally only to have them die weeks or months later because they were started too dry in their first few weeks before you got them. Check this out:
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/hatchling-failure-syndrome.23493/

Then, for comparison sake, read this:
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/how-to-incubate-eggs-and-start-hatchlings.124266/

You also have to beware that lots of people are selling mixes and unverifiable tortoises that don't look like the typical ones we refer to as South Africans.

I have two left. Both hatched with unusual scute patterns:
View attachment 213712

If you don't like either of these, I have a buddy here in CA that breeds and starts his right. His stock is directly from the same true SA stock as mine. He has them hatching all the time. I'm also in the process of incubating four new clutches currently, with more eggs to come all summer long and into November.

One last thing: If you don't like shipping, I drive to AZ every November for the TTPG and I could hand delver if you don't mind waiting.
See you in Nov. :)
 
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