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Ripkabird98

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Ok.

So.... I rescued this beauty. He is SO CUTE.

Still has an egg tooth and a very soft shell that is still forming. Supposedly found in a yard and almost ran over with a mower. Found in Jackson County, Missouri, within 50 miles of the Kansas Border. Told its a Box Turtle. As an owner of 3 boxies, I am doubting this. Can anyone tell me what this may be? I would like to know how to properly care for him. I just got him today.

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Dillon
 

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What about a snap tort? His nose is really pointy. Maybe do some research :)
 

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dannyboy said:
What about a snap tort? His nose is really pointy. Maybe do some research :)


He was found too far from water to be a snapping turtle.
 

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Box turtle, looks like a florida box turtle
 

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Those are not native so since it is so small how was it have have survived ? And how would I care for a Florida box turtle? And are they more personable then the other kinds?
 

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If they are not native, then it is probably the offspring of an escaped pet or two, they can survive anywhere really.
 

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Oh okay.. Do they make good pets like I said I live in Missouri so they are not native. Are they personable? What about care? I mean I could google it but I would like a sheet that is actually good.
 

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Lots of people myself included love box turtles, they make great personable pets. At that size a aquarium would make a good home. Young ones tend to be more carnivorous, so they will eat a lot of insects, and since they stay small, they can be housed indoors comfortably. They also eat fruits, vegetables and greens. Have a large water dish for them, box turtles for the most part are considered semi aquatic, not like water turtles but not like tortoises. moist substrate, lots of hiding places, the best advice I got on box turtles is, if you can't see them you have got a good enclosure.
 

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dmmj said:
Lots of people myself included love box turtles, they make great personable pets. At that size a aquarium would make a good home. Young ones tend to be more carnivorous, so they will eat a lot of insects, and since they stay small, they can be housed indoors comfortably. They also eat fruits, vegetables and greens. Have a large water dish for them, box turtles for the most part are considered semi aquatic, not like water turtles but not like tortoises. moist substrate, lots of hiding places, the best advice I got on box turtles is, if you can't see them you have got a good enclosure.

Like I said I have 3 boxies before this one. They dont hide like ever haha. Do they seem to bond with owner?

What about heat and such?


dmmj said:
Lots of people myself included love box turtles, they make great personable pets. At that size a aquarium would make a good home. Young ones tend to be more carnivorous, so they will eat a lot of insects, and since they stay small, they can be housed indoors comfortably. They also eat fruits, vegetables and greens. Have a large water dish for them, box turtles for the most part are considered semi aquatic, not like water turtles but not like tortoises. moist substrate, lots of hiding places, the best advice I got on box turtles is, if you can't see them you have got a good enclosure.



God its so tiny.... like a quarter. Soft bendy shell and an eggtooth too.
 

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For babies I would use a day heat source and a night time heat source. I can't honestly say tortoises/turtles bond myself, they learn you provide the food and they are often happy to see you because of that. If you already have box turtles, then you should have no problems with this one, it is a box turtle after all.
 

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dmmj said:
For babies I would use a day heat source and a night time heat source. I can't honestly say tortoises/turtles bond myself, they learn you provide the food and they are often happy to see you because of that. If you already have box turtles, then you should have no problems with this one, it is a box turtle after all.

Ah. Ok thanks. I think they actually bond like a dog lol.
 

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If it has an egg tooth the it probably newly hatched, like less than a month, soft shell is normal for babies.
 

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I'm originally from KS, and there are a lot of ornate box turtles in your area. It looks just like some babies I've seen. They don't get the typical ornate shell pattern until they're older. I have a captive-born ornate baby that I got from someone on CL in Texas. He won't eat anything that doesn't move. I put small potted plant in his enclosure, and he likes to hide under the leaves at the base where the soil is very moist.
 

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The yellow stripe down the back of the shell and the gnarly nails say it's an Ornate. Spend time with it and hand feed it bugs (pill bugs, meal worms, beetles) and it will have all eyes on you and follow you around.
 

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kbaker said:
The yellow stripe down the back of the shell and the gnarly nails say it's an Ornate. Spend time with it and hand feed it bugs (pill bugs, meal worms, beetles) and it will have all eyes on you and follow you around.

I have an ornate not much bigger than him and he has the typical shell. I work at a Wildlife Rehabilitation Center so I knew that ornate box turtles were Native. I googled Florida box turtle baby pictures and they all look identical striping all.
 

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If you have an ornate hatchling not much bigger, why were you in the dark as to the identification of this one? Looks pretty typical to me.
 

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yagyujubei said:
If you have an ornate hatchling not much bigger, why were you in the dark as to the identification of this one? Looks pretty typical to me.

My ornate looks like an adult colored one. This one looks exactly like a florida boxie.
 

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I'm thinking Ornate Box turtle. If you look at the skin around the neck and arms, it kind of looks like she has a sweater on. Would be gray in color. Right now she woud be mainly interested in pill bugs, worms or any small bug. A planted type of vivarium would be good with a small dish to soak in ....moss to dig under and hide. She should have warm humidity in the range of 80 degrees for day time and 75 for night. An Ornate at this age needs warmth and a humid place to dig into.
 

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Another vote for an Ornate. The stripe on the back, plastron, and location would suggest it. Red wigglers are usually popular, healthy, and easy to get for food. I'd suggest a bromeliad or spineless succulent (like some aloes) for a vivarium.
 
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