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do they help each other often ? [video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAFn1pxP-g4&feature=related[/video]
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Your kidding about the kindness and help, right. All of that is nothing but aggression. Ramming and biting from one male to another.
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the bigger male did turn him over in the end, he could have left him to die overturn ?
also the smaller sulcata could have been the firestarter
also the smaller sulcata could have been the firestarter
The bigger one didn't turn him over, he simply rammed him again and it happened to turn him right side up.
And yes, from where the video started, it does look like the little one instigated it, but there is still nothing kind or helpful about any of it. That is a video of two tortoises that should NOT be living together and should not even have access to each other. If the big one pins him up against a wall or tree and rams him like that, it could kill him.
And yes, from where the video started, it does look like the little one instigated it, but there is still nothing kind or helpful about any of it. That is a video of two tortoises that should NOT be living together and should not even have access to each other. If the big one pins him up against a wall or tree and rams him like that, it could kill him.
That is not nice to watch. I would be horrified to have to watch that in person. Yes they probably do that, fight often and that's why they should not be together.
Well, luckily for the little one he submitted and was allowed to flee the scene.
Try to remember that our human emotions should not be applied to these guys...also, if that larger tortoise feels like it, it can absolutely cause death to the smaller one---even with a bite to the neck and removal of a chunk of flesh from the smaller one, it can bleed to death....
I understand that sometimes folks do not understand what the outcome can be...but this behavior is not that of a tort helping the other---it is a finishing move showing an act of bullying and in this case with the size difference....could be very bad and will likely only continue until there is a really bad situation....
Please attempt to give each of these tortoise their own space within that area....two tortoise in one enclosure is a hard thing for harmony to exist....
Try to remember that our human emotions should not be applied to these guys...also, if that larger tortoise feels like it, it can absolutely cause death to the smaller one---even with a bite to the neck and removal of a chunk of flesh from the smaller one, it can bleed to death....
I understand that sometimes folks do not understand what the outcome can be...but this behavior is not that of a tort helping the other---it is a finishing move showing an act of bullying and in this case with the size difference....could be very bad and will likely only continue until there is a really bad situation....
Please attempt to give each of these tortoise their own space within that area....two tortoise in one enclosure is a hard thing for harmony to exist....
Really?!?? If that's an "act of kindness" I could punch the neighbor kid in the face to "help him with that loose tooth." :-/
That's not even funny to watch, it's saddening... And for you to just stand around, video tape and laugh about it is borderline sickening...
That's not even funny to watch, it's saddening... And for you to just stand around, video tape and laugh about it is borderline sickening...
OOOOMMMMMMGGGGGG!!!! I think I threw my back out when I hit the floor laughing out of control...I am sure my tail bone cracked upon impact...LOL LOL
ascott said:OOOOMMMMMMGGGGGG!!!! I think I threw my back out when I hit the floor laughing out of control...I am sure my tail bone cracked upon impact...LOL LOL
Glad I could finally return the favor! You make me laugh a lot with your posts as well!
wellington said:
Oh that was nothing. You should see them when they really go at it? It is brutal. These two were mostly just sitting still and doing some sniffing. When you see two of them really fight it is more like two dogs fighting. Dust flying everywhere, frantic scuffling, horrid knocking sounds from the shells banging together...
Makes you wonder what Aldabraman's Hommer versus Alpha sounded likeTom said:
Sing it Tom....unless you have seen it first hand you have no concept of how fast and vicious they can become...and they are truly in gladiator mode....
Likely alot like a Heavy Weight Boxing battle....
Tom said:
I couldn't watch the whole video. I really wouldn't want to see what you are describing. I can't watch the wildlife shows when they show an animal tracking down their food to kill. I love watching animal planet, but I do close my eyes and mute the tv a lot. I just can't handle animal killing, fighting,abuse any of it.
LOL...I love to watch the hunt and stalk and the sprint to the kill...HOWEVER, right at a moment before contact I change the channel too.....
A guy I knew liked to hunt deer, he would park and hike in hours to the hunting areas...I would love to go with him strictly because I like the scouting before time and the tracking and the way your heart gets pumping when you know you are close and then when you spot the deer ----wow, I can not think of a word that describes the thrill, HOWEVER, I will at the last minute fall back and head down because I do not want to see or hear the kill....luckily the guy was a lousy shot and each of the times I went he never packed one out....lol...
so the hours of hiking, sight seeing and testing your tracking skills is the part that I love....One time it was lucky that I have tracking skills and paid attention to my surroundings because it started to rain and then high winds then sideways snow and it turned dark...but because I paid attention to the surroundings I got us back to the truck safely before we froze....and after getting warm he never heard the end of it....lol...oh mighty hunter....I could never make an animal from live to dead....I know me and I know I could not do it...
Neither could I. I cried uncontrollably a month or so back when I hit and killed my first animal ever with my car. It was a woodchuck. I tried to go around it and that's the same way he went too. I don't ever want to do that again.
I cried uncontrollably a month or so back when I hit and killed my first animal ever with my car
I'm sorry....I feel for you...mine was a California Quail.
I'm sorry....I feel for you...mine was a California Quail.
Terrible!
wellington said:
I really hope that these guys don't belong to you!! The fact that you can video and laugh while the smaller tortoise is struggling while being rammed and flipped, is an indication that you don't have any emotional attachment to these tortoises. Clearly you didn't care that it could have got really hurt by the bigger tortoise, and that it was in a really vulnerable position. If they are your pets, you have a responsibility to keep them safe and therefore you need to seperate them!!
leopard777 said:
I really hope that these guys don't belong to you!! The fact that you can video and laugh while the smaller tortoise is struggling while being rammed and flipped, is an indication that you don't have any emotional attachment to these tortoises. Clearly you didn't care that it could have got really hurt by the bigger tortoise, and that it was in a really vulnerable position. If they are your pets, you have a responsibility to keep them safe and therefore you need to seperate them!!
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