Listing Harmful Redfoot Foods

[o.singer1972]

I've been compiling a list of foods that are bad for red foots. Can anyone add to this list? Is there anything that should be taken off the list? I don't want to give my tort anything harmful. But I want excellent variety. Thanks for the help!

No no foods for red footed tort:

Bok choy
Beet greens
Rhubarb
Peas
Beans

Egg
Cereals
Grains
Dog/Cat food
Pellet food

High Purine foods
high-protein foods
Organ meats like kidney
Fish like mackerel
Herring
Sardines
Yeast

Limit:
Spinach
Kale
Mustard greens
Broccoli
Cabbage
Celery
Cucumber
Rhubarb
Citrus fruits
Tomatoes
Cruciferous plants

I've been compiling a list of foods that are bad for red foots. Can anyone add to this list? Is there anything that should be taken off the list? I don't want to give my tort anything harmful. But I want excellent variety. Thanks for the help!

No no foods for red footed tort:

Bok choy
Beet greens
Rhubarb
Peas
Beans

Egg
Cereals
Grains
Dog/Cat food
Pellet food

High Purine foods
high-protein foods
Organ meats like kidney
Fish like mackerel
Herring
Sardines
Yeast

Limit:
Spinach
Kale
Mustard greens
Broccoli
Cabbage
Celery
Cucumber
Rhubarb
Citrus fruits
Tomatoes
Cruciferous plants

Let's discuss nutrition for South American tortoises,

The consensus of most breeders, merchants, vets, an enthusiastis falls within dark greens fruit to an extent of anywhere between 10 to 15% once in a while meaty items

The only issue is that most of the greens we provide some of the fruit we provide are completely different than the vegetation of the Amazon jungle (see attached table plant and fruit list).

Males and females eating variance was also noticed.

Tortoises are mainly opportunistic feeders and their diet is strongly influenced by seasonality on food availability (Moskovits and Bjorndal, 1990). In the Amazonian Maracá Island, near the border of Brazil and Guiana, C. carbonaria consumed more fruit in the wet season, which was significantly high-er than in the dry season when flowers were the most important food item.

of the 595 trees identified during the pheno-logical study, 74.8% presented zoochory syndrome, i.e. fruits that are dispersed and/or consumed by animals, totaling 51 species and 29 families. Based on fruit morphology and personal observations, we concluded that red-footed tortoises could potentially consume 33 fleshy-fruited species.

Did you hear? 33 varieties of fruit which are not available in North America. 33 variety as opose to three to five that we offer.

Also the consumption of fruit is larger than what is recommended by vets pet stores breeders and enthusiasts. Much more than 15 to 10% in volume.

Also broadleaf and flowers variety, see table, are much more available in wild specimen than in the captive tortoises we keep. That's means wild redfoot tortoises and yellow foot tortoises have a larger variety of plants in the Savannah then what we offer in North America.

So before we go going home on competing who's keeping a habitat perfectly like the Savannah of the Amazon in North America we need to put ourself in check and be humble to understand that without proper study investigation we really poorly feed our animals.

Growing our own tropicals indoor could be an awesome supplement to their diet and enrichment.

Keep being teachable is the key for any pet ownership feel free to share the post sharing knowledge is the key

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Let's discuss nutrition for South American tortoises,

The consensus of most breeders, merchants, vets, an enthusiastis falls within dark greens fruit to an extent of anywhere between 10 to 15% once in a while meaty items

The only issue is that most of the greens we provide some of the fruit we provide are completely different than the vegetation of the Amazon jungle (see attached table plant and fruit list).

Males and females eating variance was also noticed.

Tortoises are mainly opportunistic feeders and their diet is strongly influenced by seasonality on food availability (Moskovits and Bjorndal, 1990). In the Amazonian Maracá Island, near the border of Brazil and Guiana, C. carbonaria consumed more fruit in the wet season, which was significantly high-er than in the dry season when flowers were the most important food item.

of the 595 trees identified during the pheno-logical study, 74.8% presented zoochory syndrome, i.e. fruits that are dispersed and/or consumed by animals, totaling 51 species and 29 families. Based on fruit morphology and personal observations, we concluded that red-footed tortoises could potentially consume 33 fleshy-fruited species.

Did you hear? 33 varieties of fruit which are not available in North America. 33 variety as opose to three to five that we offer.

Also the consumption of fruit is larger than what is recommended by vets pet stores breeders and enthusiasts. Much more than 15 to 10% in volume.

Also broadleaf and flowers variety, see table, are much more available in wild specimen than in the captive tortoises we keep. That's means wild redfoot tortoises and yellow foot tortoises have a larger variety of plants in the Savannah then what we offer in North America.

So before we go going home on competing who's keeping a habitat perfectly like the Savannah of the Amazon in North America we need to put ourself in check and be humble to understand that without proper study investigation we really poorly feed our animals.

Growing our own tropicals indoor could be an awesome supplement to their diet and enrichment.

Keep being teachable is the key for any pet ownership feel free to share the post sharing knowledge is the key

Did you succeed in growing some of these plants? I see in your older posts that you've been interested in bioactive self-sustaining enclosures. Can you share what is working or not, how do keep your RFs/YFs?

 

[o.singer1972]

Did you succeed in growing some of these plants? I see in your older posts that you've been interested in bioactive self-sustaining enclosures. Can you share what is working or not, how do keep your RFs/YFs?

Sure I will.

 

[Maggie3fan]

if y'all are gonna make a list... make it easier by listing what they CAN eat...but you say my Redfoot shouldn't eat stuff she does eat, hard boiled eggs, nightcrawlers, add more fruit than you say...Layla eats berries, blackberries, raspberries, strawberries blueberries on a bed of dandelion leaves.
The main thing about any tortoise diet is VARIED...Layla gets something from everything daily. Personally, I think following any list is limiting...

 

[o.singer1972]

Did you succeed in growing some of these plants? I see in your older posts that you've been interested in bioactive self-sustaining enclosures. Can you share what is working or not, how do keep your RFs/YFs?

Sure I will.

 

[o.singer1972]

Sure I will.

Good day Alex

Sorry for the late response heavy workload.

I will post some more from the outdoor enclosure and some from the indoor. ‏here is the other end of my outdoor enclosure. Growing some papayas for in out usage. Many are potted so they can serve both outdoor indoor purpose and be mobile.

Potted mango I just did to add to my indoor enclosure. I have a few of them outdoor they go in and out.

So red foot can enjoy fallen leaves and fruit all season long. Soon enough I will update more pictures with the tortoises so you can actually see.

 

[o.singer1972]

if y'all are gonna make a list... make it easier by listing what they CAN eat...but you say my Redfoot shouldn't eat stuff she does eat, hard boiled eggs, nightcrawlers, add more fruit than you say...Layla eats berries, blackberries, raspberries, strawberries blueberries on a bed of dandelion leaves.
The main thing about any tortoise diet is VARIED...Layla gets something from everything daily. Personally, I think following any list is limiting...

Yes indeed. Varieties the key and varieties of the right plant species certainly the key. My love berries dandelion leaves flowers hibiscus certain succulents and certainly tropical plants

 

[o.singer1972]

Here is a shot of Wangs research. In this table you will see listed all plants according to the seasons they are consumed by redfoot and yellow foods.

Those are native to their habitat some of them are very difficult to get within the US

But possible they all thrive indoor if properly watered and cared for.

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Here is a shot of Wangs research. In this table you will see listed all plants according to the seasons they are consumed by redfoot and yellow foods.

Those are native to their habitat some of them are very difficult to get within the US

But possible they all thrive indoor if properly watered and cared for.

Thank you so much for sharing this!
Photos of the outdoor pens are beautiful. And the plant list is very helpful - I already see some plants I can get easily.

And, perhaps, I should try my luck with potted papaya/mango (I have never considered growing it in pots, however local farmers cultivate it successfully in our climate).

Looking forward to see your indoors enclosures!