i know im not on the best of terms with you all but one of my torts is so different than any ive seen hes almost completely black with very dark chocolate highlights i posted a pic but im told it was hard too see as you all know my typing is horrible and im no better with computers ican send a good pic by email if someone would be willing too take a look ive looked at pics everywhere i could find and cant find a tort that looks like him thanks john